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Liz The reaction of TBM's isn't so hard to understand. For them, for the controversy to go on is win/win: if it becomes obvious I "misunderstood" or invented the whole story, then someone with the audacity to publicly doubt Kolobian light borrowing looks bad - and (supposedly) "Mormon...

Hi Alex I went back and read that comment. I'd love to say it was my brother, but I am 99.999999% certain it wasn't. BUT, it does sound very much like one of my sisters, who by the way, is still attending church. She hasn't ever mentioned this to me, though. About Randy Keyes and the apologist dema...

Hi Someone just emailed me my original RFM post, from October 26, 2003, giving a summary account of my meeting with Pres. Keyes the night before. Pretty wild to read it again after all these years. I was going to post it...but I don't know what the point is right now. I don't see, at the moment any...

"Threaten" is a strong word, Chap...but maybe it's appropriate, I don't know. I've always liked Randy, but I sure don't want him continuing to put me in a position where to adequately defend myself, I'd have to really embarrass him. I've barely been able to bite my tongue as it is.

Hi everyone Sorry, been traveling and very busy the past few days. I have to run out soon but just caught this thread and skimmed the first post. I did get an email from Midgley a few days ago in which he announced he would be publishing our private email correspondence from a few years ago. Not sur...

Some teachings don't make sense, they realize there are some "issues," things don't add up, and yet Mormonism is their way of life. I feel badly for Randy if indeed he has some questions, knowing he is faced with either denying his statements and remaining in his current position, keeping...

Not sure the privacy thing's really all that big a deal, Harmony. Randy Keyes obviously doesn't think it is. Louis Midgley's about to post publicly our private email correspondence from a few years ago without asking my permission, so he obviously doesn't care. And Randy never requested that I not m...

Hi amigos Mental Gymnast, I paid close attention to your arguments and I want to thank you for your fairness. It is stomach-churning in a way to see the shark feeding frenzy from some of your buddies. I've got Midgley (can someone get this guy some anger management classes?) emailing me now trying ...

Hi Comments: About Peterson: I am genuinely happy that Peterson seems to be spending less and less time on defending Mormonism's unique "Kolobian light borrowing" theory of solar production these days (or the "magic rock" theory of book production), and more on academic stuff. My...

Hi Thanks for the follow-up comments. Many of them make sense. One problem is that I didn't misunderstand him. He could not have made his positions more clear in that conversation, and he did so over and over again . In fact, I could hardly believe what I was hearing a lot of the time, and asked num...