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by _guy sajer
Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:26 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: MILLIONS spent by LDS Inc on new MMM book
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Which of the MI's publications that have investigated different aspects of Mormonism's truth claims have concluded that "Mormonism is not true?" This is irrelevant to my point, but you could certainly place Paul Owen and Carl Mosser's FARMS Review essay in that category, and probably also...
by _guy sajer
Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:19 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: MILLIONS spent by LDS Inc on new MMM book
Replies: 1112
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That's precisely what I had in mind. Then, to quote, "you chose poorly." No, I didn't. It simply isn't the case that all, or most, or even a significant minority of the apologetic works published by the Maxwell Institute merely come to the conclusion "Mormonism is true!" Ok, you...
by _guy sajer
Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:40 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: MILLIONS spent by LDS Inc on new MMM book
Replies: 1112
Views: 41442

[You seem, incidentally, to be laboring under the illusion that the conclusion reached by most if not all FARMS (or, more properly, Maxwell Institute) publications is simply "The Book of Mormon is true!" But this is not at all the case, as I point out in my Editor's Introduction to FARMS ...
by _guy sajer
Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:38 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: MILLIONS spent by LDS Inc on new MMM book
Replies: 1112
Views: 41442

I'm looking for honest concession from you that bias does exist, which you do not appear to be willing to concede. Can't say I'm surprised. You misunderstand me. I've said for years , including multiple times in print, that bias is the universal human condition. I've repeatedly cited Peter Novick's...
by _guy sajer
Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:53 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: MILLIONS spent by LDS Inc on new MMM book
Replies: 1112
Views: 41442

Guy, Daniel has far too much at stake. His life's work, his job, his family, marriage, friends, his home are all at risk. He simply cannot arrive at any conclusion which moves the above risk closer to reality. In a way he is trapped by the Mormons closest to himself. From the sounds of it, you got ...
by _guy sajer
Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:34 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: MILLIONS spent by LDS Inc on new MMM book
Replies: 1112
Views: 41442

I cannot help but wonder how many of your colleagues had an open mind about, say, "An Insider's View . . . ?" One way of trying to determine that would be to read their reviews carefully, to see if they handle the data in a responsible way. I think they do. My own serious engagement with ...
by _guy sajer
Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:20 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: MILLIONS spent by LDS Inc on new MMM book
Replies: 1112
Views: 41442

I must say that I admire the speed with which you've read, devoured, and taken the measure of the new Oxford MMM book. To my embarrassment, I haven't even gotten around to buying a copy yet. In fact, I haven't so much as seen it. I have both purchased and completed my first read of the book. My sum...
by _guy sajer
Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:44 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: MILLIONS spent by LDS Inc on new MMM book
Replies: 1112
Views: 41442

Which begs the question on this LDS Inc funded MMM book, will it contain a similar disclaimer? It raises the question. It doesn't beg it. m And yes, I'm quite confident that it will/does. Begs, beeotchaaa I suspect that B&L didn't intend to use the term 'beg the question,' as per its formal def...
by _guy sajer
Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:30 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: MILLIONS spent by LDS Inc on new MMM book
Replies: 1112
Views: 41442

Do you expect to be taken seriously at all ? I'm not "dismissing" the book, I'm stating an obvious fact. If the LDS church funds a book about MMM, it is obviously going to be apologetic in nature. Do you expect to be taken seriously at all? (If you do, give it up. At least with me. I simp...
by _guy sajer
Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:30 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: The Gullible Mind
Replies: 59
Views: 4706

Trevor wrote:
beastie wrote:That's quite enough. Dr. Peterson is a valued poster and we will not have you harassing him. Time to go. - Uranus


It's high time we heard from Uranus. Hopefully we will be hearing much more from Uranus from now on.


I've always thought that scatological humor is humor of the highest form.