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by _Fortigurn
Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:21 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13206

Not only have I said no such thing, I don't believe any such thing. On the contrary, such an idea has been implied by others (yourself included). Clearly you do. You took the fact that some religious people oppose the Iraq war as evidence that the religious do not have near total control of the gov...
by _Fortigurn
Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:16 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13206

I've been following the disenfranchisement conversation and don't want to get embroiled in it. Just a few points. Many of those that were adamant about slavery being outlawed in America and in the UK (and the Quakers were successful in the UK) were doing so because of their religious beliefs. Many ...
by _Fortigurn
Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:09 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13206

The Nehor wrote:Nope, sorry, I can't discuss someone wanting me and everyone like me being politically disenfranchised at the whim of others without personal rancor or abuse.


That's a shame. But at least you're honest about it.
by _Fortigurn
Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:21 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13206

You discuss disenfranchising people and it receives universal approval and you think this is a good thing? Yes I do. Disenfranchising a certain group of people, in a certain context, for a certain reason. There's a whole world out here which doesn't think the same way as you guys do in the US. And ...
by _Fortigurn
Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:10 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13206

EAllusion: I really, really recommend at this point that you join me in backing away towards the door, nodding and smiling. Once outside, run like hell. This is not a troll ... I cannot understand this response to reasoned, rational questions. Certain quite unreasonable statements have been made in...
by _Fortigurn
Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:04 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13206

Here's a question for discussion (not an invitation for personal abuse). Is it practical to require schools owned by religious institutions to teach as fact scientific theories and models which contradict their religious convictions?
by _Fortigurn
Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:03 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13206

But for given what is required to amend the US constitution, and given the bizarre nature of the amendments you seem to have in mind, only a person quite detached from reality (or a timewaster) could expect anyone to take such ideas seriously. Once again, you're confusing 'unpopular' with 'unrealis...
by _Fortigurn
Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:00 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13206

No. I think they should have the right, for instance, to vote for representatives who promise to repeal the 4th amendment. I think they should be opposed by other people's votes and speech so they are not successful in their attempts. I don't think it is proper to simply strip their right to vote f...
by _Fortigurn
Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:59 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13206

Is this your own idea, or can you cite the relevant scholarly literature? I see no evidence for this whatever, and considerable evidence to the contrary. I see many religious people protesting strongly against US involvement in Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan, and yet the US continues to be involved in...
by _Fortigurn
Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:57 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13206

Yup. Fortigurn is either: (a) Serious in his proposal for the political disenfranchisement of US citizens with religious beliefs (and it is now clear that this is his proposal) Yes I am serious. If (a), he is so far removed from the spectrum of practical politics that he can properly be classified ...