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I am not a big fan of libertarianism because, in my view, it ignores inescapable realities about the human species and civilization. Homo sapiens dominates primarily because of its superior ability to act in concert as large coalitions. To effectively do so over long periods of time is the job of c...

This is what I mean. I'll highlight where I'm feeling the sharpness. I might be wrong. Edit. It's not just here. It's other people and all through the place and I think even I might have gotten caught up in it at times. Let me tell you something about myself, Valo. I was born into a cult based in Sa...

Res Ipsa wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2024 7:47 pm

Imwashingmypirate wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2024 7:02 pm

Why are people being so sharp and so defensive.

Who do you mean?

Not you personally. I just mean it's like there's a sense that people (and not just in this discussion) are feeling attacked and attacking back.


Edit: sorry I read that wrong. Thought you said what do you mean...

Where does one learn these things? I think it all comes under the general umbrella of psychology, but you can find tons of information and examples by reading articles on manipulation in abusive relationships, manipulation in cults, manipulation by con artists and scammers, manipulation by advertis...

Why are people being so sharp and so defensive.

The idea has merit in my mind. I came to the conclusion long ago that life is all about the holes. ;) And so as a result of there always being a kind of gap, that's the gap you know like where the electric spark jumps That's the thing behind your head, behind your eyes that you can never get to loo...

Res Ipsa wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2024 3:57 pm

Valo wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2024 3:29 pm

Interesting. It sounds like you know a lot about manipulation.

The only way to avoid manipulation is to study how it works. Ignorance of manipulative tactics is why even smart and sincere people are sucked into cults.

Where does one learn these things?

Again, there is no enforcement mechanism. The decision determining what consecration means is for the most part individual. You are correct, as far as I know, unless you count peer-pressure, or rather authority-pressure. I personally heard it deployed in a priesthood meeting when someone resisted a...

bill4long wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2024 1:57 pm

Imwashingmypirate wrote: ↑

Thu May 09, 2024 8:29 am

Just all a bit dirty really.

?

The lying. Just an ickiness surrounding Joseph Smith.

Ok. High spys things just clicked and then unclicked. I think I can now see what high spy has been saying. I appreciate your perspective valo. It is definitely an interesting idea and some of it makes sense to me. I would be deeply concerned if God went for a walk in a body and forgot who he was. I...