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by _Buffalo
Thu May 31, 2012 10:04 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: My worst member-missionary moment
Replies: 24
Views: 2034

Re: My worst member-missionary moment

But there are quite enough ancient MSS to convince us that the Bible was not made up in the 19th century Indeed, the Book of Mormon situation mirrors the Bible as there is nothing to convince us it wasn't made up by Jews and then 1st century Christians on top of that. You mean the stories themselve...
by _Buffalo
Thu May 31, 2012 9:59 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
Replies: 53
Views: 6250

Re: Development of morality since Christianity

Seriously, Buffalo, you do need to read better and more widely in history. Both Stak and Mak point out the weaknesses of the simplistic binaries you rely on, and Aristotle Smith gives good examples that show how non-monolithic and even contradictory "Christianity" is as an actual historic...
by _Buffalo
Thu May 31, 2012 9:54 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
Replies: 53
Views: 6250

Re: Development of morality since Christianity

The early Christian church is not even remotely analogous to the modern LDS Church. And according to the New Testament narrative, Jesus was supposed to do away with the old law. That would be the law that Israel alone is God's chosen people on the Earth. Jesus had not finished his mission on Earth ...
by _Buffalo
Thu May 31, 2012 9:51 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
Replies: 53
Views: 6250

Re: Development of morality since Christianity

I don't give a crap about his charts and graphs on the same basis for not giving a crap about charts and graphs like this: http://pool.fairmormon.org/images/thumb/0/09/BoM_Archaeology_2005.PNG/400px-BoM_Archaeology_2005.PNG Obviously all Harvard professors are chart fudgers on the level of FAIR. Gr...
by _Buffalo
Thu May 31, 2012 9:49 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
Replies: 53
Views: 6250

Re: Development of morality since Christianity

Your original response was a long series of "nuh uhs," devoid of counter argument. Are you sure you're content to let those comments stand? As usual, you completely missed his point. I think he believes watching paint dry is more informative and interesting than discussing things with you...
by _Buffalo
Thu May 31, 2012 8:47 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
Replies: 53
Views: 6250

Re: Development of morality since Christianity

The idea didn’t take hold until…. ______________ (fill in the blank) "Take hold"? You speak so linearly and monolithically of so much of history that is divided into thousands of different diachronic and synchronic segments. How phenomenally ignorant. You're so dismissive of things you cl...
by _Buffalo
Thu May 31, 2012 8:46 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
Replies: 53
Views: 6250

Re: Development of morality since Christianity

I really don't give a crap about his charts and graphs. Clearly. The issue is the validity of the assumptions underlying his charts and graphs. It's not simply a matter of disagreeing with the conclusions; it's disagreeing with the starting premises. It's all defined in the book. I'd invite you to ...
by _Buffalo
Thu May 31, 2012 8:01 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
Replies: 53
Views: 6250

Re: Development of morality since Christianity

Like all forms of barbarism and cruelty, it has been vastly reduced. Along with war violence , rape , murder , child abuse , torture , etc. How might one determine the objective definition of each of these terms? The dictionary will not be sufficient, because terms like "rape," "murd...
by _Buffalo
Thu May 31, 2012 7:56 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
Replies: 53
Views: 6250

Re: Development of morality since Christianity

Abuse of children was completely ignored until early in the 20th century. I notice a lot of vague, question-begging terms in these sweeping assertions about history. Like, what is the universal, objective understanding of "abuse of children" that is being employed? Meaning that, for insta...
by _Buffalo
Thu May 31, 2012 7:54 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
Replies: 53
Views: 6250

Re: Development of morality since Christianity

Somehow, the New Testament was also fully compatible with the abolitionist movement and the civil rights movement. Proponents of both those movements did in fact take their cues from the New Testament, not some asserted independent secularism that seems to be the tapir in your Limited Christianity ...