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- Thu May 31, 2012 10:04 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: My worst member-missionary moment
- Replies: 24
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Re: My worst member-missionary moment
But there are quite enough ancient MSS to convince us that the Bible was not made up in the 19th century Indeed, the Book of Mormon situation mirrors the Bible as there is nothing to convince us it wasn't made up by Jews and then 1st century Christians on top of that. You mean the stories themselve...
- Thu May 31, 2012 9:59 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
- Replies: 53
- Views: 6250
Re: Development of morality since Christianity
Seriously, Buffalo, you do need to read better and more widely in history. Both Stak and Mak point out the weaknesses of the simplistic binaries you rely on, and Aristotle Smith gives good examples that show how non-monolithic and even contradictory "Christianity" is as an actual historic...
- Thu May 31, 2012 9:54 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
- Replies: 53
- Views: 6250
Re: Development of morality since Christianity
The early Christian church is not even remotely analogous to the modern LDS Church. And according to the New Testament narrative, Jesus was supposed to do away with the old law. That would be the law that Israel alone is God's chosen people on the Earth. Jesus had not finished his mission on Earth ...
- Thu May 31, 2012 9:51 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
- Replies: 53
- Views: 6250
Re: Development of morality since Christianity
I don't give a crap about his charts and graphs on the same basis for not giving a crap about charts and graphs like this: http://pool.fairmormon.org/images/thumb/0/09/BoM_Archaeology_2005.PNG/400px-BoM_Archaeology_2005.PNG Obviously all Harvard professors are chart fudgers on the level of FAIR. Gr...
- Thu May 31, 2012 9:49 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
- Replies: 53
- Views: 6250
Re: Development of morality since Christianity
Your original response was a long series of "nuh uhs," devoid of counter argument. Are you sure you're content to let those comments stand? As usual, you completely missed his point. I think he believes watching paint dry is more informative and interesting than discussing things with you...
- Thu May 31, 2012 8:47 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
- Replies: 53
- Views: 6250
Re: Development of morality since Christianity
The idea didn’t take hold until…. ______________ (fill in the blank) "Take hold"? You speak so linearly and monolithically of so much of history that is divided into thousands of different diachronic and synchronic segments. How phenomenally ignorant. You're so dismissive of things you cl...
- Thu May 31, 2012 8:46 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
- Replies: 53
- Views: 6250
Re: Development of morality since Christianity
I really don't give a crap about his charts and graphs. Clearly. The issue is the validity of the assumptions underlying his charts and graphs. It's not simply a matter of disagreeing with the conclusions; it's disagreeing with the starting premises. It's all defined in the book. I'd invite you to ...
- Thu May 31, 2012 8:01 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
- Replies: 53
- Views: 6250
Re: Development of morality since Christianity
Like all forms of barbarism and cruelty, it has been vastly reduced. Along with war violence , rape , murder , child abuse , torture , etc. How might one determine the objective definition of each of these terms? The dictionary will not be sufficient, because terms like "rape," "murd...
- Thu May 31, 2012 7:56 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
- Replies: 53
- Views: 6250
Re: Development of morality since Christianity
Abuse of children was completely ignored until early in the 20th century. I notice a lot of vague, question-begging terms in these sweeping assertions about history. Like, what is the universal, objective understanding of "abuse of children" that is being employed? Meaning that, for insta...
- Thu May 31, 2012 7:54 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Development of morality since Christianity
- Replies: 53
- Views: 6250
Re: Development of morality since Christianity
Somehow, the New Testament was also fully compatible with the abolitionist movement and the civil rights movement. Proponents of both those movements did in fact take their cues from the New Testament, not some asserted independent secularism that seems to be the tapir in your Limited Christianity ...