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by Hagoth
Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:07 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Peterson the historical skeptic
Replies: 251
Views: 12782

Re: Peterson the historical skeptic

The Book of Mormon doesn’t succeed in being realistic, but it seems to be trying too hard. Noah doesn’t need tools to build his ark. Nephi has a bellows made of animal skins, iron ore accessible from the surface, and a fire that he makes by banging two rocks. As an account of ancient ship-building ...
by Hagoth
Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:58 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: The First Vision
Replies: 102
Views: 55353

Re: Father Awol

The 1832 account tendered in Smith’s own handwriting offers an original and intimate accounting of what Smith thought of his First Vision experience. Sorry if this is a bit of a derailment, but I would also like to point out that the 1832 version, written in Joseph's own hand, is also a powerful ar...
by Hagoth
Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:17 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: “King Pharaoh, whose name is given in the characters above his head”
Replies: 573
Views: 139715

Re: Eccentric apologist Ed Goble

Ed, you say you want the treasures in heaven. What? What are treasures other than peace of mind and freewill to be who we want to be? Some people take great comfort in believing that they are going to be a god in the very near future. I think peace of mind and freewill is a greater reward. That's s...
by Hagoth
Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:29 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: But Joseph USED those goofy GAEL words
Replies: 11
Views: 1969

Re: President Smith and his Minions

...if Joseph Smith was plowing his translations by looking back trying to figure out what he had done then it goes to show he was only looking back rather than moving forward with confidence in plowing additional revelation which would have been additional translations. Of course, it would make no ...
by Hagoth
Tue Jan 04, 2022 5:55 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: But Joseph USED those goofy GAEL words
Replies: 11
Views: 1969

Re: President Smith and his Minions

Strange names in the Book of Mormon and the Book of Abraham are all part of the hoax produced by Joseph Smith in fooling people into thinking he was restoring ancient history when in fact he was not. Here's one simple question that makes that very apparent while also completely destroying both the ...
by Hagoth
Tue Jan 04, 2022 1:27 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Temple Evolution
Replies: 3
Views: 1788

Re: Temple Evolution

DNA sequencing of the LDS temple suggests that there was major interbreeding with the masonic temple at some point in the past.
by Hagoth
Tue Jan 04, 2022 1:10 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: But Joseph USED those goofy GAEL words
Replies: 11
Views: 1969

Re: But Joseph USED those goofy GAEL words

I'm thinking that Joseph was miraculously prophesying 20th century jazz scat singing.

Imagine this in the voice of Louis Armstrong: "Zub zool Zi oop hah Hoe oop hah phat heh Zab zoal Phah ho e oop Zip zi Tish Zi hoe oop sater"
by Hagoth
Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:12 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: But Joseph USED those goofy GAEL words
Replies: 11
Views: 1969

But Joseph USED those goofy GAEL words

I finished Vogel’s new book. It’s very persuasive and, in my opinion, makes it pretty pointless to argue that there’s anything to the SDI (“scribes did it”) hypothesis, regarding the GAEL and alphabets. But that entire argument is kind of unnecessary when you consider that Joseph himself used the go...
by Hagoth
Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:28 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Peterson Recommends: "The Will to Believe"
Replies: 27
Views: 2092

Re: Peterson Recommends: "The Will to Believe"

It seems to me that concepts like the will to believe, and "doubt your doubts," only makes sense within the specific arena to which they are targeted. Step out of the box and they no longer make much sense. Lots of people apply those same attitudes to Flat Earth, UFOs, Bigfoot, etc. Is there a good ...