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Kishkumen wrote:I am venting not to m&g, but in general response to Oaks' misuse of this study.

I hear you, Kish. I think instability is the bigger issue and I think the article points to that clearly.

My comment was in response to the accusation of lying.

Maybe he was referencing this study, reported in the NYT in June 2012. m While his basic claim is justified by the study, mitigating factors make it difficult to lay the blame for the problems of the studied children on a single issue. by the way, this link was the fifth on the first page of a googl...

No big deal. Happens to me all the time...

PrickKicker wrote:Did he then go on to talk about tithing or some other commitment?

Not that I recall.

From YOUTUBE. Elder Oaks talk at 16:12-16:31 "I pray that we will humble ourselves as little children, and reach out to protect our little children. For they are the future, for us, for our church and for our nation....In the name of Jesus Christ, amen." So, for 16 minutes we get the disma...

But that's not a juxtapostion? It didn't come across that way to me. It was a long talk and there were certain issues that came up in clusters. The whole traditional family makeup part was later in the talk, separate from the opening mentions of the more horrid abuses like conscription, prostitutio...

Do you have to be Mormon to have parental concern towards your children, the young in the community or the whole world? What fairly well-balanced adult or parent doesn't wish that for all children? Did he say that only Mormons have parental concern? If so I missed that. As for your second question,...

lulu wrote:Why are they in the same talk on protecting children?

For the same reason he spoke about divorce among heterosexuals - these are issues that impact children.

lulu wrote:Marriage rights for Lesbians and Gays linked to the child sex trafficing and child soldiers?

Oh hell no.

Just hell no.

To my recollection, he did not link those issues nor where they juxtaposed verbally in any way. They were separate issues, among many others, that impact children.