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by MG 2.0
Sat May 11, 2024 6:07 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 129
Views: 6381

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

Welcome back MG. I hope you and yours are well. I’ll keep things rather limited so that I don’t get things too riled up! In the past I’ve spread myself a bit thin by trying to put myself into too many conversations at once. And also feeling as though I needed to ‘be there’ to the end. No more. Here...
by MG 2.0
Sat May 11, 2024 5:57 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 129
Views: 6381

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

You really need to ponder what I highlighted above and then ponder it again and then try and look objectively at Joseph Smith and what he did and the scholarship that has come out as to his sources, like http://jur.byu.edu/?p=21296 Thomas Wayment: I tend to agree that the command to “translate” the...
by MG 2.0
Sat May 11, 2024 4:21 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 129
Views: 6381

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

Repeating a quote I posted earlier: There are two layers of reality. There is the objective reality of what happens, and there is the subjective reality of how what happened is seen, interpreted, made meaningful. That second subjective layer can sometimes be the more important layer. As the Yale psy...
by MG 2.0
Sat May 11, 2024 3:08 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 129
Views: 6381

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

The quote is predictable and it is not news to anybody. I felt that the quote was quite profound. Still do. And that it has application to what we all perceive as reality. We’re each unique in our interpretive lenses. “People don’t see the world with their eyes; they see it with their entire life.”...
by MG 2.0
Fri May 10, 2024 8:42 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 129
Views: 6381

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

By the way, I don’t know if you all have either seen, read, or discussed Hardy’s “Annotated Book of Mormon”. It’s worth spending time with. Hey, MG. I hope you're well. I believe that there are more than a few here who will have read the book. Maybe you should start a thread and lead a discussion o...
by MG 2.0
Fri May 10, 2024 8:02 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 129
Views: 6381

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

It may be true, sadly, that being open to the possibility that there is something profound in a book may cause one to be more likely to find profundity, but it is certainly not a logical way to think. Suppose you are testing for A versus not-A. Simply acknowledging the possibility of A as a result ...
by MG 2.0
Fri May 10, 2024 2:43 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 129
Views: 6381

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

Because it's interesting to find out where he got his ideas. If God can just wave his magic wand, why ask how something was done? We’re human. We’re curious. If God did wave his magic wand, so to speak, He’s done a masterful job of covering up any obvious brushstrokes. Any clues one way or the othe...
by MG 2.0
Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:23 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Thanks for the conversations.
Replies: 15
Views: 7986

Thanks for the conversations.

After a recent conversation or two on this board I’ve been considering whether or not to continue participating on this board. I think I ought to manage my time more wisely and find some other things to do at this point in my life. I do believe that it’s been mostly a rewarding experience for me to ...
by MG 2.0
Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:09 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: If plates then God
Replies: 1395
Views: 6759822

Re: If plates then God

I would imagine that at the end of the day you would also chuckle under your breath at those that believe Jesus died but then lives again in the heavens. You miss the point for at least the second time this morning. I don't chuckle under my breath at resurrection myths or plates myths. I chuckle ou...
by MG 2.0
Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:56 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: If plates then God
Replies: 1395
Views: 6759822

Re: If plates then God

I wasn’t aware that he was a believer in the resurrection of Jesus Christ. You are aware, are you not, that a person can be a theist and NOT believe in Jesus? Yes, but germane to Mormonism and the restoration narrative it all comes down to Jesus and His resurrection. If one does not believe in the ...