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by _jj
Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:55 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Perego says Non-Mormon population geneticists agree with him
Replies: 85
Views: 4610

Re: Perego says Non-Mormon population geneticists agree with

It is plausible Smith had sex with married women. However, I see no evidence that proves (beyond reasonable doubt) he did. Mary Heron . Joseph Ellis Johnson, a faithful member, said "he was familiar with the first frigging [slang for sexual relations]—that was done in his house with his mother...
by _jj
Sat Nov 05, 2016 4:57 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Perego says Non-Mormon population geneticists agree with him
Replies: 85
Views: 4610

Re: Perego says Non-Mormon population geneticists agree with

Having said that, there have been significant advances in DNA technology since I made that statement back in about 2004. Its now possible to detect very small amounts of admixture in a person's DNA. This has been done with several Native American populations, including the Maya, and no Middle Easte...
by _jj
Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:38 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Authentic Gold Plates found in Java
Replies: 38
Views: 3856

Re: Authentic Gold Plates found in Java

OK, so, Nephi doesn't start making the small plates until after he separates his part of the family from Laman and Lemuel, and Nephi and his people build their temple in which they house their sacred relics. Trying to get a grasp on the chronology of the plates. Are these plates mentioned in 2 Neph...
by _jj
Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:10 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Authentic Gold Plates found in Java
Replies: 38
Views: 3856

Re: Authentic Gold Plates found in Java

It just happens that we usually interact with them as they do the things we don't admire. I'm assuming another "don't" was meant to go in there somewhere, but I guess it also works as is. On that note, I'd like to invite all here to Moroni Day 2016 ...if you are able and willing to suppor...
by _jj
Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:43 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Authentic Gold Plates found in Java
Replies: 38
Views: 3856

Re: Authentic Gold Plates found in Java

So, the Josephite Old Testament that Laban has consists of brass plates. The Nephite plates are an alloy of gold/silver/copper (indicating the alloyed nature of the account), but the Jaredite plates are "pure gold." And, I would say this works best if the stone and the gold plates are sep...
by _jj
Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:32 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Authentic Gold Plates found in Java
Replies: 38
Views: 3856

Re: Authentic Gold Plates found in Java

Lemmie wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:True about the plates, but sometimes for fun and relaxation I like to speculate.


Its also good to have a few topic-changers like this in the back pocket, to throw down when conversations with the family get uncomfortably TBLDS.
by _jj
Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:51 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Authentic Gold Plates found in Java
Replies: 38
Views: 3856

Re: Authentic Gold Plates found in Java

Metals have a hierarchy, and gold is at the top in the archaic versions of that hierarchy. Gold is, regardless, consistently considered to be at the top. Tumbaga and Alchemy In the Americas, the production of tumbaga was thought to awaken the camay, or living spirit of inanimate objects, which was ...
by _jj
Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:13 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Authentic Gold Plates found in Java
Replies: 38
Views: 3856

Re: Authentic Gold Plates found in Java

So, it looks like you are right. Nephi's plates were gold. The interesting thing is, we know that, don't we, because Joseph described them as such, not because the main narrative of Book of Mormon itself includes a description of the plates as gold? It raises the question, were the small plates mad...
by _jj
Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:59 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Authentic Gold Plates found in Java
Replies: 38
Views: 3856

Re: Authentic Gold Plates found in Java

Now, I suppose it is possible that there was a stone and 24 gold plates, both of which contained the same thing. It is also possible, however, that Joseph Smith simply forgot what he had earlier dictated or that he had some reason for changing the plates to a stone. There is, however, yet a third p...
by _jj
Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:34 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Authentic Gold Plates found in Java
Replies: 38
Views: 3856

Re: Authentic Gold Plates found in Java

It's really too bad that Joseph Smith didn't choose to attribute the technology for making plates to the Jaredites. If I recall correctly, they inscribed their records on stone. It could be argued that he did. The Jaredites had 24 gold plates that were the most probable source of the account found ...