It is neither; it is an observation.Philo Sofee wrote:Shades! That is a great comeback! It's like David Eller says when someone spouts off that atheism is a religion. "Is that meant as an insult or a compliment?
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- Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:23 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: For Simon Southerton Comments please?
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Re: For Simon Southerton Comments please?
- Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:33 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Did Tad Callister say this?
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- Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:18 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Joseph the King in Mormon Theology
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That is a nice way of putting it!moksha wrote:If Zerinus knows he knows rather than thinks he knows, then what is wrong with that? His knowing might be heads and tails above the knowing of the average TBM. He may have received the gift of the second knowing so that his knowledge has been made sure.
- Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:14 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Joseph the King in Mormon Theology
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Re: Joseph the King in Mormon Theology
I agree.Benjamin Seeker wrote:Well, this has been fun.
- Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:49 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Joseph the King in Mormon Theology
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Re: Joseph the King in Mormon Theology
I thought maybe our experiences of what a TBM is differed because of our potentially differing geographical locations. I guess you're right that not all Mormons really get to know the Book of Mormon, but I certainly did. Anyways, the kind of testimony and skepticism of negative claims due to testim...
- Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:06 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Joseph the King in Mormon Theology
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Intersting! I'd be curious to know what makes your testimony of the Book of Mormon different than the typical TBM. In my experience, most TBM's have a testimony of the Book of Mormon based on experiences with the Holy Ghost. However, I grew up out east so my experience may not reflect a Utah experi...
- Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:48 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Joseph the King in Mormon Theology
- Replies: 64
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Re: Joseph the King in Mormon Theology
Just a few years ago I was pretty much your typical TBM, and I approached anything outside of the correlated curriculum and apologetics with a high level of skepticism. So, though I obviously don't think like that anymore, I still understand where you are coming from. One thing you have missed. I a...
- Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:46 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Joseph the King in Mormon Theology
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Re: Joseph the King in Mormon Theology
Data inconclusive or unreliable. Answer hasn’t changed. Wasting your time.Benjamin Seeker wrote:One of the sources is a revelation! You can read the revelation in full and Brian Hales commentary on it here: http://josephsmithspolygamy.org/plural- ... n-whitney/
- Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:36 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Joseph the King in Mormon Theology
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Re: Joseph the King in Mormon Theology
Take Quinn out of the picture for a minute here (I came to the same conclusion he did without reading his stuff, so we certainly don't need him.). What I'm saying is that you're unfairly dismissing the whole of the evidence. Ignore all of Whitehead and just deal with Elizabeth Durfee, a member of t...
- Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:37 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Joseph the King in Mormon Theology
- Replies: 64
- Views: 6685
Re: Joseph the King in Mormon Theology
Simply put, you may disregard whitehead if you think he is suspect and Quinn's interpretation if you don't think he's reliable. However, you still have tons of historical data on those two pages, and without coming up with a way to navigate all of that data and just dismissing it looks like you're ...