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by JohnW
Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:32 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"
Replies: 40
Views: 1982

Re: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"

The original point of the thread was to discuss how friendly Mormonism was to science. There are at least two aspects of that. The theology itself may be friendlier to science and the members themselves may be friendlier to science. I thought it would be fairly easy to argue that the theology is fri...
by JohnW
Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:49 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"
Replies: 40
Views: 1982

Re: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"

...With modern revelation we tend to be just a little more agile than many other churches. The membership expects changes in policy and even sometimes doctrine to adjust to the times. Wow. Can you document this in any way? Because it really does not sound like the lds church. Maybe PR for the lds c...
by JohnW
Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:44 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"
Replies: 40
Views: 1982

Re: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"

It seems to me that if Mormon God were to be really friendly with science, the Mormon God would be inspiring his people to invent something that would simultaneously benefit society while affording an income sufficient for the Church's needs. Sure tithing is a religious tax that allows the faithful...
by JohnW
Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:40 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"
Replies: 40
Views: 1982

Re: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"

Mormonism and science are on friendly terms for a variety of reasons, none of which actually can be used as evidence of Mormonism. Yeah, when we start using science as evidence for our theology, that is when we run into a lot of the problems you describe. It is a difficult thing. We as humans like ...
by JohnW
Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:35 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"
Replies: 40
Views: 1982

Re: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"

Even when the prophet himself told Mormons to get vaccinated, based on science, many Mormons balked. At their own prophet. So they don’t believe in science, and they don’t believe in God’s supposed prophet. What do they believe in? It seems many Mormons have started worshiping Conservatism and char...
by JohnW
Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:21 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"
Replies: 40
Views: 1982

Re: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"

JohnW, nice to see you again. Chronologically, the Book of Mormon begins at the post-flood and immediately post-tower period. How do you see modern revelation adjusting to scientific knowledge about these two Biblical events? Is there a reasonable way for the Book of Mormon to survive the scientifi...
by JohnW
Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:03 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"
Replies: 40
Views: 1982

Re: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"

I have thought a lot about the relationship between science and religion. With regards to Latter-day Saint theology, I agree that using the term "very friendly" is a stretch. What he might be intending to say is that LDS theology is friendlier to science than mainstream Christian religions. John, g...
by JohnW
Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:00 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"
Replies: 40
Views: 1982

Re: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"

One argument that comes to mind is that with modern revelation, we can adjust to any new scientific discovery. Not only that, but it is in our psyche to accept new scientific discovery. I think that is what the James E. Talmage quote is trying to get at. I find that this isn't happening with regard...
by JohnW
Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:43 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"
Replies: 40
Views: 1982

Re: "Science and Mormonism have nearly always been on very friendly terms"

I don't post on the various Daniel Peterson threads, but I thought we might be able to get a good discussion out of this one. I have thought a lot about the relationship between science and religion. With regards to Latter-day Saint theology, I agree that using the term "very friendly" is a stretch....
by JohnW
Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:49 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
Replies: 151
Views: 6207

Re: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option

John, I give you full credit for wading in here, attempting dialogue, and conducting yourself in a civil manner. On the other hand, because you write with a barely disguised condescension (that I'm not sure you even know is there), I personally have a difficult time taking you seriously. I went bac...