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by Kishkumen
Mon May 06, 2024 9:14 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: RFM on Kamp in Court
Replies: 1
Views: 54

RFM on Kamp in Court

I recommend a recent RFM podcast on Jenn Kamp in a hearing where she stands accused of spoliation of evidence regarding her defamation of John Dehlin. After RFM’a intro, the last 1.5 hours are the part most worth listening to.
by Kishkumen
Mon May 06, 2024 8:53 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 82
Views: 3923

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

So if an author’s two works are boring, then that accounts for why everyone magically remembers the names “Nephi” and “Lehi” even though they didn’t actually exist in the first one? Please explain the connection, ‘cause I don’t see how. I think the connection is pretty obvious. Their knowledge of t...
by Kishkumen
Mon May 06, 2024 10:58 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 82
Views: 3923

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

Shades, I can tell you how these people could have experienced memory contamination: Spalding’s writing sucks. It is boring as hell, and as tedious as parts of the Book of Mormon can be, its opening chapters are much more engaging than Spalding’s extant work.
by Kishkumen
Sun May 05, 2024 2:16 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 82
Views: 3923

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

Dr. Shades, What would be the difference between believing there is a longer Manuscript Found as a critic, and believing in a longer Book of Abraham scroll destroyed in the Chicago fire as an apologist? Thank you! I was thinking the very same thing yesterday. By the time I got back to the thread th...
by Kishkumen
Sun May 05, 2024 11:56 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 82
Views: 3923

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

It wasn't a silly assumption. You said that "the Book of Mormon bears a generic and rough narrative resemblance to Manuscript Found." The extant manuscript to which we can compare the Book of Mormon is the rough draft recovered from Ms. McKinstry's trunk. You can't say that regarding Manuscript Fou...
by Kishkumen
Sat May 04, 2024 5:41 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 82
Views: 3923

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

Dr. Shades wrote:
Sat May 04, 2024 2:50 pm
How can you have read that book but still make the rookie mistake of conflating the rough draft found in the trunk with the finished Manuscript Found?
How can you make silly assumptions?
by Kishkumen
Sat May 04, 2024 5:39 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: FAIR Partners with the Valiant Conference: Has a New Mopologetic Organization Emerged?
Replies: 34
Views: 2190

Re: FAIR Partners with the Valiant Conference: Has a New Mopologetic Organization Emerged?

Gadianton wrote:
Sat May 04, 2024 3:52 pm
Hence his need to respond.
LOL! I suppose my views represent something of the range of BY criticism. Any criticism that does not include great reverence for BY’s role as a prophet is bound to provoke an apologetic response of some kind.
by Kishkumen
Sat May 04, 2024 12:37 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: FAIR Partners with the Valiant Conference: Has a New Mopologetic Organization Emerged?
Replies: 34
Views: 2190

Re: FAIR Partners with the Valiant Conference: Has a New Mopologetic Organization Emerged?

I am pleased to announce that at least a portion of the schedule and speaker list for the 2024 FAIR Conference has been released . FAIR acolytes will notice that this year's conference will be held over two days rather than three, and some presentations will be held simultaneously, requiring attend...
by Kishkumen
Sat May 04, 2024 12:32 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: FAIR Partners with the Valiant Conference: Has a New Mopologetic Organization Emerged?
Replies: 34
Views: 2190

Re: FAIR Partners with the Valiant Conference: Has a New Mopologetic Organization Emerged?

Session 3: Daniel Peterson, "Appreciating Brother Brigham" (10:29 - 10:54 AM) Congrats, Reverend. A direct response to you personally. I doubt it is a response to me personally. After all, I believe in giving Brother Brigham his due. I just don't feel obliged to like him or revere him beyond his ro...
by Kishkumen
Sat May 04, 2024 10:51 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"
Replies: 82
Views: 3923

Re: Lars Nielsen's "How the Book of Mormon Came to Pass"

I’ve read that book, Shades. Somehow I did not come out of it as convinced as you. As I have argued here before, the Book of Mormon bears a generic and rough narrative resemblance to Manuscript Found, as its language resembles the Late War, but it is its own, unique work. What the evidence supports ...