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by Shulem
Wed May 18, 2022 3:06 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley
Replies: 27
Views: 256

Re: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley

Heh... the Orion gig is interesting... It is interesting. We can reason that the crude shapes and things that make up the pictorial design within the upper portion of each plate were carved to represent something in particular -- a 19th century person attempting to imitate primitive art. All of thi...
by Shulem
Wed May 18, 2022 2:22 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Shulem where is your J.S. revelation from Jesus on the 3500 yr old papyri?
Replies: 1
Views: 9

Re: Shulem where is your J.S. revelation from Jesus on the 3500 yr old papyri?

I really need to get that quote. A friend is asking and I can't find it. I think you quoted SMith in the TImes and Seasons and had a picture of it....can ya help me out? Ask and ye shall receive. I compiled several posts to that effect in the King's name thread and challenged Ed Goble to explain it...
by Shulem
Tue May 17, 2022 8:36 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley
Replies: 27
Views: 256

Orion’s Belt?

What are the six stars (?) on the plate? The three to the right are in a tic-tac-toe formation and the three at left are somewhat offset? Stars? Oh come on! Look: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRT_M-8bq4VLJoBLJcyj32eCabpRFTEDoZy6w&usqp=CAU What IF? https://theplanets.org/123/2...
by Shulem
Tue May 17, 2022 5:01 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley
Replies: 27
Views: 256

Re: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley

But you found astronomical or lunar cycle meanings? Fugate and Wiley must have given some thought into the hieroglyphic and pictorial design they wanted to employ for their forgery. Undoubtedly, they were aware of the Book of Abraham publication which Smith published the previous year in the Times ...
by Shulem
Tue May 17, 2022 2:36 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley
Replies: 27
Views: 256

Re: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley

Moksha wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 1:59 pm
http://www.mormonthink.com/files/hc372to379.htm

The second and fourth bell plates appear to be an E-meter reading of Thetans at the top.

Yeah, could be that too.

;)
by Shulem
Tue May 17, 2022 1:37 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley
Replies: 27
Views: 256

Re: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley

Moksha, are u there?

;)
by Shulem
Tue May 17, 2022 1:37 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley
Replies: 27
Views: 256

Sun, moon, and stars

Front and back facsimiles of six Kinderhook plates: High resolution photos at Mormon Think High resolution photo at Wikipedia -- scroll down and zoom From the facsimiles printed by the Church newspaper, it can be seen that the characters and illustrations on each of the Kinderhook plates are divided...
by Shulem
Tue May 17, 2022 11:52 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Missing Scroll Theory & Catalyst Theory in light of Mormonism Live
Replies: 86
Views: 958

Re: Missing Scroll Theory & Catalyst Theory in light of Mormonism Live

How do you reconcile either of the two most accepted faithful solutions (Missing Scroll theory and Catalyst Theory) to the Book of Abraham in light of the following? Multiple sources show that when Joseph Smith examined the Kinder hook plates, he consulted the GAEL (Book of Abraham Document named t...
by Shulem
Tue May 17, 2022 4:02 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley
Replies: 27
Views: 256

Times and Seasons

Mr. Smith has had those plates, what his opinion concerning them is, we have not yet ascertained. The gentleman that owns them has taken them away, or we should have given a fac similie of the plates and characters in this number. We are informed however, that he purposes returning with them for tr...
by Shulem
Tue May 17, 2022 2:55 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley
Replies: 27
Views: 256

Charlotte Haven

Taken together, these sources indicate that Joseph Smith was attempting to translate the Kinderhook plates by ordinary methods of traditional translation. Furthermore, they show that he was doing so openly, in the company of a group of Church members and nonmembers. In contrast, there is no mention...