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by Shulem
Thu May 19, 2022 2:31 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley
Replies: 38
Views: 333

Re: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley

The off-beat epigrapher Barry Fell examined the Kinderhook plates, and may have compare them to Micmac and other writing systems. Don What about the ancient Proto-Uto-Aztecan script or something found on the Manishtusu obelisk? Beam me up! I believe this record tells of a lost civilization and the ...
by Shulem
Thu May 19, 2022 12:46 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley
Replies: 38
Views: 333

Re: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley

So the forgers then got dollar signs in their eyes and tried to sell them to Joseph Smith. Don I agree. None of the nine persons who signed the certificate knew it was a spoof other than Fugate and Wiley who were in on the joke. They kept it a secret. But right, the idea of making money surely ente...
by Shulem
Thu May 19, 2022 12:26 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley
Replies: 38
Views: 333

Re: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley

Similarly, your possibility of runes on the plates is utterly fascinating! Don Don, See here , scroll down to the second row, far left plate. The arrow character ( → ) is near the center, close to the bottom of the belled plate. There is the possibility that Runes was an influence depending on whet...
by Shulem
Wed May 18, 2022 6:22 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Shulem where is your J.S. revelation from Jesus on the 3500 yr old papyri?
Replies: 5
Views: 59

Re: Shulem where is your J.S. revelation from Jesus on the 3500 yr old papyri?

Great information from Shulem. I cited that letter to James Bennet without noticing the significance of the mummy remarks. I know Shulem could give these too but here are primary references to the "3,500 year" statement: Draft letter from JSP (mummy stuff written in left margin) Letter as recorded ...
by Shulem
Wed May 18, 2022 6:05 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley
Replies: 38
Views: 333

Re: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley

Toward the end of the nineteenth century, suspicions began to arise regarding the authenticity of the plates. In the 1870s, Wilbur Fugate, one of the men who unearthed the plates, wrote letters revealing that the plates were part of a hoax. He claimed that he, Robert Wiley, and the village blacksmi...
by Shulem
Wed May 18, 2022 4:23 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Shulem where is your J.S. revelation from Jesus on the 3500 yr old papyri?
Replies: 5
Views: 59

Re: Shulem where is your J.S. revelation from Jesus on the 3500 yr old papyri?

Don't forget this little gem: I proceed to answer you the truth of revelation, or religion as promulgated by me I have succeeded as a man of God by the power of God I translated the Book of Mormon from hieroglyphics bold measures of receiving direct revelation from God, through the Comforter and tha...
by Shulem
Wed May 18, 2022 3:41 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley
Replies: 38
Views: 333

Re: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley

1) The symbols above the line on each plate appear more pictographic than those beneath the line. <snip> In other words, there's a great deal of contextual information that can be brought together with the actual symbols on the plates to explore what the forgers may have been thinking. Keep going! ...
by Shulem
Wed May 18, 2022 2:54 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley
Replies: 38
Views: 333

Re: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley

2) One of those involved in the forgery reported that it was inspired by what Parley P. Pratt said in his Voice of Warning about how truth would spring out of the earth to confirm the Book of Mormon, so it's possible that there's some further spoofing on Pratt in the plates themselves. So it may be...
by Shulem
Wed May 18, 2022 11:42 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: How Many More Wives? Treat Me the Way you Wanna Do
Replies: 2
Views: 39

Re: How Many More Wives? Treat Me the Way you Wanna Do

The Mormon authorities and their toadies like to say that they don't practice polygamy anymore, but it's only half true. They still believe in the doctrine. We all know this. It comes down to sealings. Today, if a wife dies, a man can be sealed to another wife, and so on. And the man expects to be ...
by Shulem
Wed May 18, 2022 3:06 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley
Replies: 38
Views: 333

Re: Kinderhook Plates and Don Bradley

Heh... the Orion gig is interesting... It is interesting. We can reason that the crude shapes and things that make up the pictorial design within the upper portion of each plate were carved to represent something in particular -- a 19th century person attempting to imitate primitive art. All of thi...