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I hear the point you are making, I don't think that really relates well with the narrative being told though. I don't think the leaders know and are lying. If they know, which at least some do, I think they are being sincere. There are plenty of people who get the problems with the narrative and ye...

Grace is different- one is all in all the time with Jesus because that relationship is the most important thing going on in life. That is, an issue arises- the building fund payment; the issue is taken to the Lord- " we will do whatever you Lord" ...............(my note of reservation) No...

From Gad:"Realistically, people create social institutions and social institutions govern people's choices and realistically, the packaged life deal a person gets out of Mormonism isn't that bad compared to other packages out there. There are also other tight-knit communities where shunning hap...

Grace is different- one is all in all the time with Jesus because that relationship is the most important thing going on in life. That is, an issue arises- the building fund payment; the issue is taken to the Lord- " we will do whatever you Lord" Kairos, as long as the donation went to a ...

As an evangelical late to understanding "grace" as the unmerited favor of God- neither worked for nor in any sense earned, the Toddster's story is somewhat off the mark IMHO;with choosing the so called right,obedience( if we are obedient to making this building fund payment, we do not know...

The below quote attributed to John on ExMormon Reddit some hours ago has a depth of thought, I,as a nevermo, never thought about it in the way he puts! OTOH being raised in the "one true church" Roman Catholic way of life, the quote applies too; but not as rigidly as it applies to Mo'ism. ...

I'm kind of scratching my head over this whole thing. I'm really trying to make it work because he has some doozies like this: For anyone who might be at all interested, I must point out that the unit I was assigned to occupied one really impressive old German building at Tompkins Barracks. There w...

Remember when Carly Fiona walked into the HP board room expecting a normal trustee meeting, only to be met by the Board Chair who fired her hardly with a word- she described how that happened in her book! Bottom line - she did not have her six(her corporate ass) covered because she was very loose on...

For historical pertinence as helping to set the record on Mopologetics straight all of your thought pieces and memory recalls are of course important and I really do not mean to minimize the information being discussed here. But there is it seems to me, some humor in all of this. I keep thinking of ...

Man what a slog!! Just to get to the bottom of this, I want to know if this is the first letter or second of a two parred or just and edited version of a first letter that was not really sent? Or is a copy of a fax and the original writer's name is cut off from a cut and paste job made to look like ...