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Woo hoo!! Time to do some good ol' fashioned guiltless sinning. Yeeeeeee Haaaaaaawwww!! Some Schmo, The problem is that now Scottie cannot sin. There is no external, third party source to interpose any standards or identify any conduct as "sin." Now Scottie does as Scottie pleases. Whatev...

I wonder if this second source for the toad tale changes the unlikelihood Mr. Antley ascribes to the toad tale having originated with JSJr. No, it doesn't change my opinion much. Orson Saunders third-hand account published wasn't published until 1893, and then based on the recollections of eighty-y...

Hello again Joseph. Also a third-hand account, but according to Orson Saunders, Joseph Smith Jr told his uncle Benjamin Saunders: "I forced the crowbar under the stone and raised it without difficulty. There I beheld a casket of golden plates, on which were inscribed the new gospels. The glory...

Thanks Mike! I've never seen this one. Ahh, you are here, Mr. Antley! Are you able to point to any historical facts and circumstances that lead you to think it was not likely that Joseph Smith himself claimed a spirit appeared to him in the form of a toad? Do you know of any facts that contradict H...

Joseph Antley : Interestingly, though, Chase's account is the only treasure-seeking account to describe a treasure-guardian as a toad. In fact, the only other account I'm familiar with that describes the treasure-guardian as an animal is Caleb Butler's treasure-guarding demon "in shape of...so...

jskains wrote:I find this entire reality on MDB to be ironic. I see you guys calling the other place the MADHouse, but in reality this board should be called the Nut Farm.

JMS

Mr. Skains,

No, the Nut Farm is where the Joseph Smith, Sr. family lived near Palmyra.

Regards,

Spider.

Can Joseph Smith seeing a toad immediately transfiguring into a spirit and striking him just be chalked up to the 'folk magic' of the time and place? I imagine Chase's account was influenced by it. I do not think it's likely that Joseph Smith ever personally claimed that the spirit appeared in the ...

jskains wrote:

Spider-to-the-Fly wrote:Mr. Skains,

So you place the Book of Mormon in the fantasy genre?

Regards,

Spider.

I don't, but you clearly do.

JMS

Mr. Skains,

I think it goes in its own genre, Delusional.

Regards,

Spider.

jskains wrote:Nice try, Spider-to-the-fly, but your attempt at humor would have worked better if I said "Fantasy".

Then it might have made more sense.

JMS

Mr. Skains,

So you place the Book of Mormon in the fantasy genre?

Regards,

Spider.

Anyways, this might be longer than the last (a year I think). I want to focus on my novel (Sci-Fi). Mr. Skains, You did say it was a Sci-Fi novel your focusing on, right? Oh, goody. I've been waiting so long, but to know that the end is in sight. Maybe just a year more for-- The Book of Mormon II, ...