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- Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:09 am
- Forum: Celestial Forum
- Topic: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
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Re: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
Roger, --although I have no doubt you will disagree with me and for the most part support Dan and Glenn. I think you’re right. I’m a hopeless N/M/M (Nephi/Mormon/Moroni) theorist. Glenn, you have done a great job hanging in there on this very long thread. My 2 previous posts address to some extent y...
- Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:16 pm
- Forum: Celestial Forum
- Topic: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
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Re: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
[/quote] Roger said: On the other hand, Ben never said that I was misquoting him. Of course, like you, he thinks the real author is not among the candidate set, but the fact remains that (whether right or wrong) he asserted that when the real author IS among the candidates, then Jocker's methodology...
- Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:23 pm
- Forum: Celestial Forum
- Topic: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
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Re: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
Roger, I’ll try not to bloviate, but I can’t guarantee it. I’m sorry about the hit and run. I was at a conference last week. I made the comment in the middle of the night when I couldn’t sleep. I was travelling home all day yesterday. Marg said: I haven't followed what your statistical study/studies...
- Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:01 am
- Forum: Celestial Forum
- Topic: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
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Re: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
Roger: Out of curiosity, what question should we have been needlessly wasting our time on? Here's my two cents worth. I just saw an interview with author Jonathan Kay of “The Truthers.” The book identifies several clusters of people who seem ‘susceptible’ to believing in/promoting conspiracy theorie...
- Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:05 pm
- Forum: Celestial Forum
- Topic: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
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Re: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
Bruce's work ignores all of the work previous, which links Rigdon and Spalding to the Book of Mormon. It is a hallmark of Mormon apologist thinking, focusing on the individual leaves of the tree and ignoring the forest, perhaps hoping that others don't know that a forest exists. (Especially the cul...
- Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:53 pm
- Forum: Celestial Forum
- Topic: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
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Re: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
I appreciate Matt’s gracious response. I too was under the impression that Mr. Hausler had obtained his permission to publish the email. I believe that Matt is sincere in saying that “our results showed simply that one candidate in the set was more likely than another (for any given chapter)” and th...
- Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:45 pm
- Forum: Celestial Forum
- Topic: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
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Re: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
You know, it's entirely possible to read something, understand it, and disagree. I agree. I was too strong in what I wrote last night. However, I think the situation is analogous to fitting a straight line to observations that clearly follow a curved pattern. You can mechanically find the best fitt...
- Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:40 am
- Forum: Celestial Forum
- Topic: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
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Re: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
Hi Matt (through aussieguy). Though the authors would like readers to believe that our use of NSC was "naïve" (as they write in the article), it was not in fact naïve. (It warrants mention that the statistician, Prof. Witten, who did the statistics on our project, is Tibsharani's former gr...
- Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:13 am
- Forum: Celestial Forum
- Topic: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
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Re: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
aussieguy55 said: It's interesting when one is an amatuer in these matters of the S/R theory to think wow they have done a kinghit on Jockers et al. Then a response to the paper in an email by one of the authors of the first paper, many flaws in the Schaalje paper are pointed out which I as a amatue...
- Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:49 pm
- Forum: Celestial Forum
- Topic: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
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Re: Response to Jockers, Criddle, et al., Now Available
Effects of KJE make the situation more difficult to pin down. We will see.
Closed set attribution will not be of any help in dealing with archaic language.