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by _Tim the Enchanter
Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:23 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: What are the options available to those who become disillusi
Replies: 289
Views: 17808

Re: What are the options available to those who become disil

Your original statement was that you failed to see why the physical world and the supernatural are not equally valid, claiming both are subjective conscious experiences. Taking pictures is part of the physical world, it's not supernatural. If you regard the physical world and supernatural as equall...
by _Tim the Enchanter
Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:20 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: What are the options available to those who become disillusi
Replies: 289
Views: 17808

Re: What are the options available to those who become disil

The SDA survived White's plagiarism. Mormons eould flourish as a conservative evangelical denomination. No gay marriage or female priesthood and conservative moral values will attract pro-traditional family people. The Book of Mormon is not the resson for LDS success. I am not an expert on Adventis...
by _Tim the Enchanter
Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:57 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: What are the options available to those who become disillusi
Replies: 289
Views: 17808

Re: What are the options available to those who become disil

Define survive . Without the hierarchal authoritarian structure and with an emphasis on atonement and resurrection over the unique Mormon truth claims, what does the church look like a few decades later? The CoC? Most active LDS are too heavilly invested in the church to abandon it. For those who h...
by _Tim the Enchanter
Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:52 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: What are the options available to those who become disillusi
Replies: 289
Views: 17808

Re: What are the options available to those who become disil

If someone made contact with Bigfoot and was able to describe Bigfoot in detail, even perhaps taking pictures of Bigfoot, and another person made contact with an elephant and described the elephant in detail, even perhaps taking pictures of the elephant, I would consider each to be valid subjective...
by _Tim the Enchanter
Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:26 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Retaliation for Asking Questions in the LDS Church
Replies: 24
Views: 1489

Re: Retaliation for Asking Questions in the LDS Church

So much for being free to ask questions in the LDS Church . . . Thoughts? All the Best! --Consiglieri As per usual, you are free to ask questions as long as you unhesitantly resolve the question in favor of sustaining whatever comes from the mouths of those in authority, regardless of whether it co...
by _Tim the Enchanter
Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:13 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: What are the options available to those who become disillusi
Replies: 289
Views: 17808

Re: What are the options available to those who become disil

The LDS Church could survive as a non-creedal Christian church which emphasizes the atonement and resurrection of Christ and conservative moral values. It would need to deemphasize its heirarchical authoritarian structure. Define survive . Without the hierarchal authoritarian structure and with an ...
by _Tim the Enchanter
Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:48 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: What are the options available to those who become disillusi
Replies: 289
Views: 17808

Re: What are the options available to those who become disil

tld wrote: Both the physical world and the supernatural are subjective conscious experiences, and I fail to see why one should be regarded as more valid than the other.


If I am following you, you consider evidence of the existence of Bigfoot as valid as evidence of the existence of elephants.
by _Tim the Enchanter
Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:25 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Running with Terryl and Fiona Givens
Replies: 41
Views: 2285

Re: Running with Terryl and Fiona Givens

I'm in a narrative. It is Mormonism. I have a family. I have friends. They are in and part of the narrative experience called Mormonism. Human beings love stories. And better yet, I think we love to play a PART in a story/stories (accounting for all the possibilities in world religions and belief s...
by _Tim the Enchanter
Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:45 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Letter to a CES Student
Replies: 56
Views: 4746

Re: Letter to a CES Student

Afterall, if God's work and glory is to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man it seems as though he'd want to involve his "students" as much as possible in the process. Even the special needs kids and those with behavior disorders. Regards, MG ♫ Praise to the special needs...
by _Tim the Enchanter
Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:11 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Running with Terryl and Fiona Givens
Replies: 41
Views: 2285

Re: Running with Terryl and Fiona Givens

Hi Water Dog,on a given day I think I can understand where you're coming from. But at the end of the day , figuratively speaking, a choice has to be made. Move forward in faith/hope...or not. As I've mentioned before on this forum, years ago I had to make a choice towards moving towards faith/hope ...