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Hi Roger, Thanks for the links you provided. Very interesting. As for your request for a reference with respect to whether Dan Vogel referred to Cowdery as a co-conspirator, in his You Tube video "Evolution of Mormon Authority Claims Part 1," at the 51:34 or so mark, Dan says that it is un...

Hi Dan, I think the horse is almost dead and I don't want to be accused of animal cruelty, but I am really curious about your comment that the curtain was not used when Harris was the scribe for the lost 116 pages. I always understood that the curtain was used. It seems to me that the curtain certai...

Thank you for your comments, Mr. Vogel. I just have a few comments andquestions. 1. Although Harris did state that Joseph used the stone in the hat as well as the magic spectacles during the translation of the 116 pages, he couldn't see what Joseph was doing because of the curtain so Harris was just...

I just recently listened to Dan Vogel's two part You Tube video on the Evolution of Mormon Authority Claims. As I understand him, Vogel concludes that Joseph and Cowdery made up the claims about John The Baptist and Peter James and John restoring the two priesthoods around 1834-1836 and that at leas...

Hi Nevo, I debate with myself whether Cowdery was a true believer who was willing to deceive for the greater good of Mormonism or whether he just pretended to be a true believer to obtain and retain his position of power, authority and prestige as Joseph's second in command. I suspect it was some of...

One other minor point I forget to mention, Nevo, you state that Cowdery probably would not have been bothered by Joseph reading from and referring to the 1769 Bible, but that Bible and its errors and different language was not in existence when the Book of Mormon was supposedly written 1300-2300 yea...

Hi Nevo, The fact that Cowdery may have written Phineas Young in 1846 that Cowdery saw Peter is only the weakest of proof that Joseph's story that he and Cowdery were ordained by Peter James and John to the higher priesthood in 1830 is true. The evidence we're looking for Is believable contempory ev...

Hi Neve, I don't suggest that all of Cowdery's motivations were personal advancement, but clearly that was a major factor. The small amount of money Cowdery had from teaching in Manchester was quickly depleted to pay bills and for Joseph's benefit. You say Cowdery could have continued teaching schoo...

Hi Nevo, I certainly agree that the evidence you refer to needs to be taken into account in determining Cowdery's knowledge of the con, but I think the evidence in favor of Cowdery's knowledge of the con is much more persuasive. True believers have practiced deceit about their religion and especiall...

The evidence seems overwhelming that Joseph wrote the Book of Mormon alone or with the help of others. I'm not interested in arguing that point. My question is what Oliver Cowdery's involvement was. As I understand it, the faithful Mormon eye witnesses stated that Joseph claimed to be translating al...