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For azflyer: thanx for your comments. Would you give us a scenario in which the pilot/captain would go on the loudspeaker and tell the passengers what is going on:Like “hi folks this is your captain ( ok azflyer you are captain what do you think he communicated to the passengers :”.,,,, ..,,,,,…….,...

Dr. W, Apologies to you and Mr. Stig for any unwarranted assumptions on my part as to your reasons for posting here. No worries on that front. I certainly know that I'm late the party here. At least I made it in before the pages numbers on this thread hit the century mark. And Mr. Stig did in fact m...

Doc, I am in no way suggesting that the pilot exceeded the airspeed limits for the decent. A textbook emergency decent presents NO risk. I am suggesting that what I believe was likely the relatively close proximity to the airport turns would have required some turns for the descent. And gvien that o...

Dr. W,

Thank you for the welcome post. This has been a fun situation to examine in detail. And you are right, I do have the benefit of hindsite here, and I greatly appreciate all the work that so many here have done to dig into all of the details.

Hello Mr. Stig! Yes, I am indeed that person you in real life. And you are correct. Most of the reason I'm posting here is related to the BR and RFM podcast. They are both great guys, but there were just a few aviation details that I was cringing at while they were talking. I do not fault them on th...

Doc, I don't understand this comment: Because the objective is to descend the airplane as soon and as rapidly as possible within the structural limitations of the airplane. All phases of flight are supposed to be conducted within the structural limitations of the airplane. Even emergency descents. F...

Lem, I didn’t listen to their podcast but I have read this thread, was the RFM argument that the documented precautionary landing shouldn’t have seemed like the emergency landing Nelson described it as? I haven't really read this thread, but I listened to the entire two hours podcast. And basically,...

Also, as a point of reference, here is a thread on the pilotsofamerica forum. The author of this post wrote this up a few years back. I remember that he posted it shortly after I became a pilot. This speaks a bit to what pilots consider an "emergency" and what is "urgent". https://www.pilotsofameric...

You’re right, I was conflating the two. That said, if one engine is shut off and feathered and the pilot compensates for yaw with the other engine and it’s operating fine, I guess I don’t understand the need for an emergency descent when a regular descent is in order. Great question. Let me try and...

Doc, There is zero risk in using the "Emergency Decent" technique. It is only a technique that allows the pilot to descend (nearly) straight down as quickly as possible. You're conflating the descent and the landing. They are separate phases of flight. Also, I'm not arguing that anything about the l...