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I'm not a big fan of Young's, but this comment may help with this. When Horace Greely came to Utah and interviewed Young, he asked (and was asked) some interesting questions by Young and Heber C. Kimball. At the end of the interview, Greely asked Young, [Greely.] Mr Young I shall have to state in my...

Dan, thanks for the reference to the Reformed Egyptian Characters being described as an alphabet by Lucy Smith. For those who don't know EMD is Early Mormon Documents, Vol.1.

Don, Thanks for taking the time to reply. You said The account has by this point passed through Moore and Haven. I'm not sure I'd expect fine distinctions to be made as to the book mentioned. Let’s look a Charlotte Haven’s account again, cause I’m not following you. She says Joshua Moore relates new...

The Kinderhook plates were found (around) the 16th of April 1843. On May 1st Clayton wrote: “I have seen 6 brass plates which were found in Adams County ... President Joseph has translated a portion and says “they contain the history of the person with whom they were found & he was a descendant ...

Having compared the GAEL with the Kinderhook Character, I thought the same thing that Dan did, it's not quite a match , and how to explain the horizontal line with the two downward bars. Are you saying the two characters are not an exact match? Because here is what I asked Don earlier in the thread...

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What I would like to know is if 'A Gentile' was there, when Smith 'translated a portion of them', at the same time that Clayton was. Does anyone have the entire statement? Does he give the same details that Clayton did? Unfortunately Uncle Dale's collection of the Herald does not cover that period. ...

The problem I see, is that Clayton wrote, President Joseph has translated a portion and says “they contain the history of the person with whom they were found & he was a descendant of Ham through the loins of Pharaoh king of Egypt, and that he received his kingdom from the ruler of heaven & ...

It seems that the crucial new evidence is an eyewitness of Smith consulting the GAEL. That raises a few questions. Is the account dated? Is there evidence that Smith linked the exact character from the GAEL to the KP? (besides modern visual observation) How does Charlotte Haven’s account fit in to a...