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by _Fortigurn
Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:55 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13277

That I consider political freedom so important that I would fight for it means that I shouldn't have it? That's an odd stance. I'm putting the odds of trolling at 8 to 1 right now. Yeah, I'm getting the same vibe. Comments such as this remind me that this forum is largely populated by citizens of t...
by _Fortigurn
Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:44 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13277

I will tell you that if you tried to take away my political voice and succeeded I'd consider killing you. The you definitely shouldn't have a political voice. In fact you should be locked up for the safety of society. That I consider political freedom so important that I would fight for it means th...
by _Fortigurn
Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:40 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13277

Religious people make up 80ish % of the population depending on how you define them. I would like to see reliable statistics for this (not that I think it's particularly relevant). The have near total control over the government and its military. Is this your own idea, or can you cite the relevant ...
by _Fortigurn
Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:26 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13277

No, also he supported the right of Americans to have their religious beliefs taught in educational curriculum materials as fact. No he didn't. He supported the right of people to advocate for that. There's a difference. There is a difference, but I didn't see him supporting mere advocacy. Unless he...
by _Fortigurn
Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:34 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13277

In North America there are very few classes that don't have a vote. I think it's limited to felons and illegal immigrants. And anyone under the voting age. I will tell you that if you tried to take away my political voice and succeeded I'd consider killing you. The you definitely shouldn't have a p...
by _Fortigurn
Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:32 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13277

I think he means people like felons being restricted from voting Chap. Historically that also included groups like blacks and women. Of course, there are other ways to influence the political system. I think he is just advocating that the religious not be allowed to vote or possibly do things like ...
by _Fortigurn
Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:27 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13277

What individual US citizens are currently, as individuals, restricted from having a political influence, and by what machinery is this restriction enforced? Anyone under the voting age, and historically, women and African Americans. See EAllusion's post. I see you are one of those posters who has a...
by _Fortigurn
Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:20 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13277

The best way in this particular case would be to pass legislation preventing those holding religious convictions from active political involvement. That includes voting and holding political office. Without any lobbying power, religious fanatics would have no political voice, and weak and corrupt p...
by _Fortigurn
Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:14 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13277

What he supported is the right of Americans to express their beliefs and lobby the government on behalf of their political views. This is important for reasons he expressed. No, also he supported the right of Americans to have their religious beliefs taught in educational curriculum materials as fa...
by _Fortigurn
Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:08 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Stop teaching pseudoscience in school
Replies: 109
Views: 13277

No modern democracy is remotely likely to legislate for a religious test for exercising political rights, and in any case such a law would be extremely difficult to enforce due to lack of certainty in ascertaining who holds religious convictions and who does not. You are not talking anything like p...