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by Rick Grunder
Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:18 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: The First Problem Is . . . .
Replies: 85
Views: 10730

Re: The First Problem Is . . . .

Very much appreciate this thread, as DrW and others have expressed. Kish's recent observation about "the deification of Jesus [presenting] a problem for largely monotheistic Jews" reminded me of something I read years ago by Melodie Moench Charles . . . . . . when [ancient] Jewish Christians began t...
by Rick Grunder
Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:34 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Hales on Book of Mormon Authorship
Replies: 16
Views: 2523

Re: Hales on Book of Mormon Authorship

The wonderful 1834 review of the Book of Mormon by Unitarian Jason Whitman (1799-1848; Harvard, 1825) includes this particularly relevant passage: In a large portion of the community, there is a great degree of ignorance in regard to the geography of the sacred Scriptures, the manners and customs of...
by Rick Grunder
Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:37 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: An article in which Tad Callister complains about "Revisionist Historians'" use of dubious sources then uses Nephi as a
Replies: 20
Views: 2500

Re: An article in which Tad Callister complains about "Revisionist Historians'" use of dubious sources then uses Nephi a

I believe this article stems from a curious assertion about Columbus published by Dr. Daniel C. Peterson in 2002. See my following entry from Mormon Parallels for the details, and for other fun stuff (including Lamanite cannibals, and America as an island). http://www.rickgrunder.com/parallels/mp286...
by Rick Grunder
Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:31 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Does the Book of Mormon "roll a 1" with "Then" and "The"?
Replies: 17
Views: 2623

Re: Does the Book of Mormon "roll a 1" with "Then" and "The"?

Wonderful stuff, Dean Robbers! Thank you for this topic and your contribution. You have brought a new question to my mind, as follows . . . Phil Barlow wrote that “. . . ‘and it came to pass’ may be discovered 336 times in the Old Testament, 60 times in the New, but 1,168 times in the Book of Mormon...
by Rick Grunder
Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:56 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: It's not the church of Jesus Christ-
Replies: 11
Views: 2044

Re: It's not the church of Jesus Christ-

Thanks for this thread, Skipper - Overbearing systems affect different people in a wide variety of ways. Some individuals seem to shed the impossible parts like water off a duck's back. Many of us, on the other hand, have suffered, and can relate to thoughts being shared here. I tried to express a b...
by Rick Grunder
Fri Aug 06, 2021 4:03 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Hebrew Names Among the Jaredites
Replies: 20
Views: 3041

Re: Hebrew Names Among the Jaredites

A little music is always welcome, Moksha! I also appreciated Philo's remarks about shifting options for apologists, but let me offer a subsequent layer of interpretation which I think is crucial: Some Mormon defenders love to agonize over the improbability of poor, stupid young Smith even finding hi...
by Rick Grunder
Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:47 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Hebrew Names Among the Jaredites
Replies: 20
Views: 3041

Re: Hebrew Names Among the Jaredites

Thanks, Philo - I quite liked Alphus and Omegus' Hebrew finds as well (though I'm not personally qualified to evaluate them myself). The OP of this thread asks how apologists might handle things like this. Regarding Walker's Dictionary , which I first noticed in the 1980s, someone at FairMormon (now...
by Rick Grunder
Fri Aug 06, 2021 2:08 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Hebrew Names Among the Jaredites
Replies: 20
Views: 3041

Re: Hebrew Names Among the Jaredites

I'm no scholar of ancient languages, but in Walker's Dictionary (many editions, easily available to Joseph Smith), I notice a few Book of Mormon or similar names in the dictionary's section on the "PRONUNCIATION OF GREEK AND LATIN PROPER NAMES," pp. [13]-50: AM´MON (p. 16) E´NOS (p. 27) Gad-i-ta´nus...
by Rick Grunder
Thu Aug 05, 2021 3:12 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Hebrew Names Among the Jaredites
Replies: 20
Views: 3041

Re: Hebrew Names Among the Jaredites

I have suggested elsewhere that, to Joseph Smith’s understanding, everything ancient and sacred was Hebrew, of sorts. He conceived Abraham writing Hebrew centuries before that language came into being – and with Egyptian characters, somewhat in harmony, as Joseph would have understood it, with gener...
by Rick Grunder
Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:45 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Shulem Cracked the Book of Mormon Code, the Land of Nephi is now revealed! See for yourself! The Golden Key!
Replies: 678
Views: 163814

Re: Shulem Cracked the Book of Mormon Code, the Land of Nephi is now revealed! See for yourself!

While I have not yet felt the Spirit in relation to your peninsula, Shulem, I surely agree with you that there was only one Hill Cumorah in Joseph Smith’s mind. The culture in which he lived presumed that great civilizations migrated that far north before being destroyed. In 1819 in Auburn, New York...