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Oh its worse than that... the apostles in Jesus' day who actually SAW the Lord are doomed since they are forced to believe in Jesus now. No wonder today's apostles, Special Witnesses to Jesus' holy, sacred name are blessed with NOT seeing Jesus or hearing Jesus or even KNOWING Jesus. It would kill ...

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Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:36 pm

No, they’ve got a guaranteed ticket to the Celestial Kingdom. For some reason God decided they didn’t need any epistemic distance. They were probably tested in the pre-existence or something.

Oh that pesky Mormon God! Him and all his unwritten and indiscernible rules!

If there was actually evidence for out of body experiences, it would force you to believe in God and deprive you of the blessing to be able to choose incorrectly and end up in Mormon hell. Isn’t Mormon God wonderful? Wait so you are telling me the Israelites who supposedly witnessed first hand a pl...

drumdude wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:08 am

If only Mormon doctrine were so simple. The first presidency issued a statement squarely aimed at undermining McConkie and Mormon Doctrine:

The Church did McConkie so dirty.

I have to look for the study I read about people in low-income households, but I'll find it. For now here is one reference "For some that could be as early as age 18 or as late as age 30. But the average is around 25 years of age." https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/brain-myths I don't think this h...

On average. For many it is around 30. It is around 19 for people in low-income households. We are all different. I would argue that the science differs from what you are saying. Here are some sources. Do you have some sources that back up your claim that I could read? I am open to changing my stanc...

For a 20 year old? The same could be said about many 25 and 30 year olds. People in low-income households do tend to grow up much faster. We know from science that the brain is fully developed around 25 years old. Arguably, post 25 an individual would have better decision making skills that would g...

I'm completely with Kukulkan, but I don't see how "unintentional grooming" creates a more dangerous environment for the dudes. So, imagine a Bishop asking some dude, "son, do you watch porn?", how exactly would the question make the dude more vulnerable? I think you might be misunderstanding what t...

I completely agree, but I am talking about IHAQ's "unintentional grooming". Does unintentional grooming really create an more dangerous environment for the dudes? I think that even the ages 10-20 are a very emotionally and mentally difficult time for adolescents. At that age you are trying to figur...

So if the Mormon church creates an environment that endangers children, can you please show us the evidence? Do you have the statistics to prove it? Oh well, I guess it is true because the Holy Ghost told us I think we both know that there aren't any statistics out there that will show either way t...