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Lots of water, and lots of Book of Mormon settings. The Smiths didn't use a ferry at that point, but the crossing would most certainly have burned itself into young Joseph's brain as they traversed that dark and dreary wilderness area. I think of Lehi's dream whenever I drive the approximate route w...

Thanks for this excellent early map of the central New York State area, Shulem - Also notice the " Road " running east and west, about 2/5 of the way down from the top of the engraving (the Seneca Turnkpike, today's State Highway 5). This is the road on which the Smith family would have traveled fro...

So, in this proposed scenario, what do we do with the story of Hagoth, which doesn't fit the map? . . . And it came to pass that Hagoth, he being an exceedingly curious man, therefore he went forth and built him an exceedingly large ship, on the borders of the land Bountiful, by the land Desolation,...

While reading this thread and one of its links, I was dumbfounded, this evening, to see the following on a FAIR page: No American statesman in 1832 believed that the doctrines of secession then talked of would result in a great civil war. None of them had the foresight to see that a great rebellion ...

Years ago, I noticed that in 1828, freethought writer Benjamin F. Powell promoted some of the same arguments which Korihor would offer in the Book of Mormon dictation the following year. In that spirit, I enjoyed the two following comments in this thread: On May 15, Dr Moore wrote: On topic of the p...

Symmachus wrote: Quinn knew how to exploit an archive in a way that younger historians can scarcely appreciate; the New MI people, particularly those who ignore Quinn as "outdated," play word games in sandboxes. Sure, they can make some pretty castles and they clearly enjoy playing with the social ...

The following statement comes from DeWitt Clinton, the governor of New York (1817-21; 1825-28), in "A Memoir, on the Antiquities of the Western parts of the State of New-York, addressed to the Honourable Samuel L. Mitchill, a Vice President of the Literary and Philosophical Society of New-York, Prof...

While Gerald Tanner was early to voice suspicion of the salamander letter, Sandra Tanner initially took the other side, as they expressed in their Utah Lighthouse Ministry newsletter of the time, reporting that they were of two different minds on that subject. Eventually in the spring of 1986, follo...

I know, right? I knew Mark and Dori, have been interviewed for most of the books & documentaries on those events, and still couldn't get the proper spelling of "HofmaNN" to stick in my head. I finally had to resort to a memory crutch: Two N's at the end, for "Naughty Nerd." Now I remember, despite t...

Dr. Peterson's observation reminded me of something I came across decades ago (and eventually incorporated in my Mormon Parallels , pp. 637-38). For whatever it may be worth to this discussion . . . 174 HALE, Sarah Josepha (Buell). SKETCHES OF AMERICAN CHARACTER. By Mrs. Sarah J. Hale, Author of Nor...