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Basically, to not have been sexual harassment: John needed to be fired, permanently. Anne needed to keep her current position and pay, permanently. Anne needed to keep access to the Facebook groups she was moderating, permanently. The board could never fire Anne or change any of her work assignments...

Did they or did they not offer to rehire A? They offered to let her re-apply. As you know, that is not the same as offering to re-hire. She decided not to even re-apply, because they told her she would not have access to the Facebook groups she had been moderating. Is your employer killing the proj...

The proper response to John and A's relationship was to fire them both. LOL you should have stopped there. How much sense does it make to fire someone and then immediately rehire them?? 1099 or otherwise? Again, I'll ask the question: what actual organizational ramifications did John face for his a...

The proper response to John and Anne's relationship was to fire them both. Which the board did. Then they offered John and Anne new positions to rehire them. John accepted, Anne rejected. So what it boils down to is the anger that John was treated more favorably by the board, which they themselves a...

The context there is that it's quid-pro-quo. John tells Anne she must have sex to keep her job, and Anne either accepts or rejects that. John telling Anne they're breaking up isn't quid-pro-quo. There's no behavior to accept or reject. Quid pro quo is one of several sexual harassment dynamics. It's...

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Tue May 11, 2021 4:06 pm

You and I both know that paragraph in the policy was written for one reason and one reason only.

Good Lord I think we can all finally agree on something.

I suggested the employment decision was terminating her employment. The context there is that it's quid-pro-quo. John tells Anne she must have sex to keep her job, and Anne either accepts or rejects that. John telling Anne they're breaking up isn't quid-pro-quo. There's no behavior to accept or rej...

You caught John out in a lie. And you caught him violating a policy put in place by this exact situation. If Rosebud hadn't made such a fuss I'm pretty sure they would have a boilerplate sexual harassment policy in place, just like Apple. If it's good enough for a 2 Trillion dollar corporation, I th...

And it still doesn't matter because the sexual harassment policy of one of the largest corporations on earth says zero about relationships between superiors and subordinates.

Let's take a look at Apple's sexual harassment policy. You know, one of the largest corporations in the world. https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/pdf/Apple-Supplier-Code-of-Conduct-and-Supplier-Responsibility-Standards.pdf Sexual Harassment • Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual...