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by Zosimus
Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:28 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Book of Mormon Geography
Replies: 552
Views: 219084

Re: Pearls

This evidence serves to show how Joseph Smith was naturally inclined to include pearls in his story because pearls were naturally had upon the rivers that flowed in America proper. We can only guess if Smith thought pearls were also found around Delmarva and the coast. But we know that pearls were ...
by Zosimus
Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:37 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: View of the Hebrews
Replies: 32
Views: 2178

Re: View of the Hebrews

I wondered where the chronologically impossible claim that Hyrum knew Ethan and Solomon came from Cohorts at Dartmouth along with Solomon Spaulding's nephew. Having chased this thread before, there are some notes worth mentioning. Richard Behrens, author of Dartmouth Arminianism And Its Impact on H...
by Zosimus
Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:19 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Book of Mormon Geography
Replies: 552
Views: 219084

Re: Book of Mormon Geography

What if apologists took the position that God whisked Joseph away to a second Cumorah in either Mexico or Malaysia to retrieve the ancient gold plates and had him reappear at the exact spot where he was originally beamed up? With a transporter device, all things are possible. No need. It's a simple...
by Zosimus
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:13 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Book of Mormon Geography
Replies: 552
Views: 219084

Re: Book of Mormon Geography

If Captain Kidd can do it, so can Lehi! Ah I get it now. Captain Kidd. Hey, remember how Captain Kidd's boat was called the Kedah Merchant ? And that the founder of Kedah was named Maroni ? Get this, that pseudepigraphal text I linked to above called The Walking of Zosima to Rahman ? The one about ...
by Zosimus
Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:46 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Book of Mormon Geography
Replies: 552
Views: 219084

Re: South

RThey were lost in the wilderness and relying wholly on the ball to lead them. They didn’t know where they were going other than towards the promised land which was their only object in mind. That's right, it wasn't until Nephi was in the promised land, reflecting back on those wanderings in the wi...
by Zosimus
Tue Feb 07, 2023 6:52 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Book of Mormon Geography
Replies: 552
Views: 219084

Re: South

They traveled nearly eastward from that time forth until they came to Bountiful. END. OF. THE. LINE. All we are given is Nephi's comment that they went nearly eastward from 1 Nephi 17 forth. He doesn't say they ever stopped going eastward. You can make the assumption that they did, but it doesn't c...
by Zosimus
Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:53 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Book of Mormon Geography
Replies: 552
Views: 219084

Re: South

But the text says nothing about Lehi going east other than their trek across Arabia. The general description between Lehi’s old world and the land of promise is that its separated by water as if water is required to form that separation. The text tells us the direction the ball took them in 1 Nephi...
by Zosimus
Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:56 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Book of Mormon Geography
Replies: 552
Views: 219084

Re: South

But If God wanted them to go east, they could have simply made their journey east on land rather than head to the southern coast to sail away into the unknown. If they were going east, I guess the ball could have simply taken them by foot for thousands of miles through some of the roughest terrain ...
by Zosimus
Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:32 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Book of Mormon Geography
Replies: 552
Views: 219084

Re: South

Zosimus, please pay attention. Columbus set his own compass and did his own thing in 1492. That’s entirely a different story. Lehi was commanded to follow the directions on the ball and go wherever it pointed. That is the point of this exercise. Which direction did God want him to go? Right or left...
by Zosimus
Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:54 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Book of Mormon Geography
Replies: 552
Views: 219084

Re: South

Why do you say that in reference to my statement? What are you arguing? I only mentioned that Lehi would have known of Egypt, Africa, Babylon, Asia, and BEYOND in a general way and any information or understanding he would have had would have been based on the secular knowledge available in that ti...