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Mature process meaning it has been going for a long time and reached a state where wild swings in the data are no longer the pattern. That would make sense if the process" had remained constant. Say for instance I have the same group of ten salesmen working the same general area using the same...

Strange in what way? Strange like they're doctored? No. I think it represents a typical pattern for growth in a mature process where there is not a lot of variation. Strange as in, abnormal. What do you mean by "mature process?" Are you saying that the church has reached a threshold of ma...

I did the charts. That's my site. You don't need to draw a line in ppt, the math is there. And you're right. The slope of membership (the bars) is not the green line % change, it's raw change. Here are the numbers. It may seem linear because the variation is small, compared to the size of the bars....

I don't understand what you're saying. Growth is not linear. ... The green line is the growth (slope of the bar charts trend) and it's not constant. The jagged green line is not the slope. It's the Year-Over-Year percentage increase, or as the legend on the graph itself states, "YOY Growth %&q...

Good analysis with graphs. I like graphs, and from these ones something very odd strikes me. Over nearly 30 years the growth in total numbers is linear. You can draw a single straight line that goes almost exactly through the tops of all the bars in the total numbers graph. This is really weird. Th...

This is not the first time the question has been raised as to whether RFM is a Snufferite. Over at Ex-Mormon Reddit, I have seen some say they are just waiting for the other shoe to drop. They will be waiting a long time, I fear. I know that there are some LDS who have grown disillusioned with curr...

The way I have come to formulate it is this: If Joseph Smith wasn't a prophet, the current leaders aren't prophets. And if Joseph Smith was a prophet, the current leaders sure as hell aren't prophets. I think the distinction is important. And there are more options. Joseph was a prophet by a certai...

No offense, but this is a pretty dumb OP. Ok, so fundamentalists also agree that the church doesn't follow its own rules. So what? These things are unrelated. Consig is either correct about the rules, as laid out in the D&C, or he's not. I'm kind of an LDS apologist in my own way, but I'm not i...

But here’s the thing, the LDS Church (from a believer point of view) only exists because of supernatural events. If you don’t believe in supernatural events you de facto cannot believe in the LDS Church. You might like the church, enjoy the church, agree with some facets of the church etc. But beli...

I have a question wrote:I’m slightly confused as to how someone can be both a believing LDS yet not believe in the supernatural, as the LDS Church is born from claimed supernatural events?

Yeah, I know it's confusing. But some people do it.