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by _Kishkumen
Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:07 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
Replies: 100
Views: 24288

Re: Tom Kimball Online Funeral and Obituary

His family again released a public statement: Dear friends and family, My dad's funeral will be tomorrow October 20th at 2pm. This will not be in person due to corona virus. It will be live streamed via zoom and recorded to watch either live or on you own time. We would like to warn everyone that t...
by _Kishkumen
Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:05 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
Replies: 100
Views: 24288

Re: Death of Tom Kimball

Oh wait...so, Rosebud=Anne McMullin? Didn't see that coming. Sounds like she's accusing Lindsay, then, for being party to her being mistreated by Dehlin...And now it makes sense why he was thrown into this. To be fair to Rosebud, I am sure she is both genuine in her interest to the plight of victim...
by _Kishkumen
Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:34 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
Replies: 100
Views: 24288

Re: Death of Tom Kimball

Well, I wholeheartedly wish her well. I think there is some seriously good potential in her stated objectives. I wouldn’t expect any less, and I wish her the best too. She is obviously a very capable person. That said, the saying, “physician, heal thyself,” comes to mind. All of my experience with ...
by _Kishkumen
Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:18 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
Replies: 100
Views: 24288

Re: Death of Tom Kimball

Hey Kish. You make good points, all very valid. I particularly like how you pointed out Tom's indiscretions were going on long before he left the Church. Its not easy to follow one's life and assign the causes. I happen to maintain many relationships with members. I try to give them their due as mu...
by _Kishkumen
Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:54 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
Replies: 100
Views: 24288

Re: Death of Tom Kimball

Fortunately I don't think anyone advanced the claim there that the church "creates pedophiles." I know I did not. There are always going to be the few that unreasonably place the whole blame on the LDS Church for this or that evil. That really doesn't work. Moreover, it doesn't persuade anyone to m...
by _Kishkumen
Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:26 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
Replies: 100
Views: 24288

Re: Death of Tom Kimball

Well, Stem, you are a good soul. I appreciate you visiting both boards to weigh in. Here's the thing: we can expect that LDS apologists of the Mopologetic variety will make the reactions of Post-Mormons and Ex-Mormons the focus of their own criticism when the key point here is that predators are usi...
by _Kishkumen
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:31 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
Replies: 100
Views: 24288

Re: Death of Tom Kimball

I don't see bishop's interviews with kids going away any time soon regardless of what the bad apples do. The idea that one needs to include the church in periodic worthiness interviews is a source of the church's magic that members give it. So, the sooner kids get used to the idea the better. The m...
by _Kishkumen
Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:54 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
Replies: 100
Views: 24288

Re: Death of Tom Kimball

The reason why pedophiles have freedom to operate in the LDS Church is the same reason pyramid schemes work in LDS communities. They are affinity crimes. The criminals are not concerned with church doctrine, but they capitalize upon friendships and relationships and the trust of persons in authorit...
by _Kishkumen
Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:12 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Spiritualism Movement
Replies: 11
Views: 2672

Re: Spiritualism Movement

Aaron Mankhe's Unobscured Podcast examined the history of spiritualism in its second season. https://historyunobscured.com/season2/ Although Mormonism and spiritualism went down different paths, their origins were more closely related than I had realized. I found the podcast to be very well done, a...
by _Kishkumen
Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:16 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Death of Tom Kimball
Replies: 100
Views: 24288

Re: Death of Tom Kimball

Over at MD&D the predictable finger-pointing at Post-Mormons is unfolding. Some of it I think is justified. That is, because Tom was a Mormon Studies and Post-Mormon figure of some standing, many people started from a position of partial unbelief and shock and tried to square the good memories of th...