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by _Socrates
Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:36 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: How are the Kinderhook Plates a secular translation?
Replies: 68
Views: 5722

Re: How are the Kinderhook Plates a secular translation?

To be honest, I would disagree with most of that. However, I realize that this is basically now a debate over the meaning of the word "revelatory," which is fundamentally undecidable, and therefore not very enlightening. The claim, or assumption, has been that Joseph Smith translated from...
by _Socrates
Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:31 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Don Bradley's Kinderhook Bomb
Replies: 321
Views: 84691

Re: Don Bradley’s Kinderhook Bomb

Equality, Chris Smith has given an honest and accurate summary of the critical based on the KP and how this affects it on the "secular translation" thread: The traditional "anti-Mormon" objection to the KP incident has been that if Joseph translated a portion of the KP by revela...
by _Socrates
Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:08 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Similar symbols on the Kinderhook Plates & GAEL
Replies: 5
Views: 838

Re: Similar symbols on the Kinderhook Plates & GAEL

Is it correct that Don's "bull's eye" (the character on the KP also being found among the KEP) requires that the elements of the KP character have to be deconstructed from the assembly in which they appear on the KP as a character, in order for the 'match' to be made? How distinctive are t...
by _Socrates
Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:03 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Don Bradley's Kinderhook Bomb
Replies: 321
Views: 84691

Re: Don Bradley’s Kinderhook Bomb

Does Don's thesis suppose that the GAEL was not inspired by God and was an 'off the plan' endeavor to which Joseph Smith, Jr. and his scribes spent countless hours while living off of the contributions of hard labouring Saints?
by _Socrates
Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:01 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Don Bradley's Kinderhook Bomb
Replies: 321
Views: 84691

Re: Don Bradley’s Kinderhook Bomb

Are the apologists at FAIR and NMI now in day three of wiping the egg off of their face for having for years doubted even disparaged Clayton and the accuracy of his journal entry, Clayton a confidante and scribe trusted by Joseph Smith, Jr.? Is the silence by those apologists as thundering and deafe...
by _Socrates
Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:04 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Don Bradley's Kinderhook Bomb
Replies: 321
Views: 84691

Re: Don Bradley’s Kinderhook Bomb

Simon Belmont wrote:Analytics: why did you refer to it as a "bomb?" Are you trying to be a jerk?

Was Don Bradley's theory and presentation a complete demolition of the critical arguments? That was the advance boast, wasn't it?
by _Socrates
Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:12 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Don Bradley's Kinderhook Bomb
Replies: 321
Views: 84691

Re: Don Bradley’s Kinderhook Bomb

Morley wrote:
Socrates wrote:


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My favorite game show is Jeopardy! "Alex, I'll take Theology for $800."


If your name is Socrates, shouldn't your signature line be a question?

Have you considered what the second thing that would follow after my signature line quote would be?
by _Socrates
Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:21 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Don Bradley's Kinderhook Bomb
Replies: 321
Views: 84691

Re: Don Bradley’s Kinderhook Bomb

RockSlider wrote:How many characters are on the kinderhook plates?

What character in the GAEL translates as an identification of a great Nephi warrior that descended from Ham? What part of the Book of Abraham talks about a great Nephi warrior descended from Ham?
by _Socrates
Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:10 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Don Bradley's Kinderhook Bomb
Replies: 321
Views: 84691

Re: Don Bradley’s Kinderhook Bomb

Apparently, Don discovered that a symbol on the Kinderhook plates matched a symbol that was on the Grammar and Alphabet of the Egyptian Language (GAEL) documents that Joseph Smith and/or his cohorts had produced. Wait, how did a symbol from the GAEL get on the Kinderhook Plates? Or did a symbol fro...
by _Socrates
Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:58 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Why I lost my virginity
Replies: 84
Views: 5350

Re: Why I lost my virginity

Dr. Peterson, does "soaking" (coitus interruptus) carry a different sin denotation (and punishment) in Mormon theology/penitence than if there was ejaculation by the male while in the vagina? Once there is penetration of the vagina, that is enough for coitus for rape. Is it different for M...