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They are morons? But I'm referring specifically to Bill Reel/AtlanticMike. A moron. I've challenged BR/AM to put me on his podcast for a debate. Any topic he'd like. No rules otherwise. He can talk as long he he wants and give me as little time as he wants. I've already said many times that I am th...

We all now agree, it seems to me, that the Church is about building wealth. Out of necessity, yes. I don’t know how many times I have to repeat this. That is not their PRIMARY focus. There are four others, need I repeat(?), that matter MUCH more. Do the caps help? So you agree that the Church is ab...

The Law of the Tithe is biblical. It’s also a standing law unto the church. Active and believing members pay a tithe because they are commanded to. They believe that they receive blessings for doing so. Would you take that away from them? Members also want to participate ‘hands on’ in helping the p...

At a certain point, the above won't hold water for anyone other than the most ardent believers. To say that a church needs $One Trillion in savings for a rainy day will definitely beggar belief. It looks like that is where they are headed. Also, it is obvious to me that a church doesn't need the am...

It could also be argued that the continued ability of the church now and into the future to do the “works of Jesus”, as you mentioned, are enhanced by having a wealth of income and stored assets. To Proclaim the Gospel To Perfect the Saints To Redeem the dead To Care for the Poor and Needy One coul...

Fourfold mission being the primary goal. To Proclaim the Gospel To Perfect the Saints To Redeem the dead To Care for the Poor and Needy And to have plenty of resources in reserve for possible hard times that may come. With the current economic situation and as one looks into the future, that’s not ...

Yes. The over-arching principles of equality I argued for in this thread, mostly on her behalf, seem to be principles that she herself is still unable to adopt. Yep. One would have hoped she followed along with your comments and took notes. I'm concerned that in 10 years she'll repeat this same mes...

That’s a convenient tactic right there. Blame it on “the org”. The fact is, you are not able to point to any one group and/or individual and take them into a room, so to speak, and accuse them of having less than pure motives. Why would I want to do that? The result is you are able to fling mud wit...

O to be a fly on the wall during THAT meeting! Pretty easy to imagine what was said. "I hate his politics" Stake Pres whoever: "Well, he's given that up and God has called him to the prophet. God wouldn't let him lead us astray or anything." "I suppose you're right. Fine. I'll let it be." SP: "Grea...

You can tell an institutions executive objective by how it uses its wealth. Where it spends the most money is the institutions primary interest. The Church spends the most money on accumulating interest and growing the hoard, therefore that’s its primary interest. Everything else is either guilt sp...