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Is it safe to assume that the prof in question was a member of the Ancient Near East Studies faculty? So: Gee, Parry, Peterson, Welch, Muhlestein, or somebody like that? I highly, highly doubt Parry would be the one to do that sort of thing. I have never met the others, but this strikes me as being...

How many times, and in how many ways, can one beat a dead horse before one sees clearly the pointlessness of the exercise? I think there is a lot more interesting stuff than that here. I for one don't waste my time on establishing this or that about the Church, but there is plenty to discuss and ar...

Maybe most people in the past did know the flaws as well as the merits of their heroes; I'm not sure about that but let's suppose it was so. Perhaps people who were around when the statues went up had soberly weighed up the flaws and the merits and concluded that the balance was positive enough to ...

As I said, when we accept that Gee is partisan and that like most people in his situation he is not going to be "statistically responsible," we can at least be happy for those times when he says something factual, which is about as fair as the situation is going to get. I don't think I ever claimed...

Certainly I have never said anything about blaming people or singling them out. Yes, noted, but the point is, Gee did do exactly that, and I am disagreeing with your point here that it was appropriate for him to do so: We can also fairly critique Gee for perhaps implying, intentionally or not, that...

Yes, of course, hence my statement: "Now, we can argue about how important it is or should be that people understand the LDS gospel." I will mark you down as one who thinks it is or should be unimportant. Yes, I saw that, but I assumed it was all right to offer my view as one so marked, and Dr. Moo...

Hi Meadowchik, You are absolutely right to see how far away the Talmuds are from Lehi's time. Same goes for the Mishnah (on which most of the Talmud's are commentary) and the Midrash. So any time I see apologists quoting this stuff, I tune out. What you ask about what was part of the scriptural cano...

Put yourself in the shoes of the scribes. You have the finished text of Abraham. And then you have a collections of scrolls. If I recall correctly, Nibley called the "Joseph Smith papyri" a "scrap", and said that a much longer scroll existed with colorful inks. John Gee says the other scroll is 41 ...

Bite your tongue. That’s a SOUTH jersey thing. :eek: North jersey is far too couth to voice such a contraction. :surprised: Oh yeah? Prove it. Ga'head. :lol: :lol: My apologies. Clearly I did NOT mean to implicate the Jersey Shore, home of Jersey Girl herself, the tri-state hotbed of couthness! Thi...

Symmachus, what have you heard about Catholic University's doctoral program in Semitic and Egyptian Languages and Literatures? They have excellent department of Semitics, so I assume the program is a strong one. I know some people on the faculty there; I studied with some when they were at another ...