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by dan vogel
Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:34 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Vogel's new video response on Book of Mormon and Masonry
Replies: 59
Views: 3319

Re: Vogel's new video response on Book of Mormon and Masonry

It seems someone has taken issue with what I wrote about George Oliver. The Masonic scholars who have done the most research on George Oliver believed that he wholeheartedly believed in the orthodox school of thought on Masonic history that Adam went through Masonic rituals in the Garden of Eden and...
by dan vogel
Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:51 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Vogel's new video response on Book of Mormon and Masonry
Replies: 59
Views: 3319

Re: Vogel's new video response on Book of Mormon and Masonry

Indeed, definitely more than rhetoric, but is Joseph at this point so spot on in his typological ancient parallels as to say, "Hey, there were evil Masons in ancient America, so beware!"? On the one hand, I can totally imagine that being the case, but it would actually only work well if he had a pr...
by dan vogel
Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:47 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Vogel's new video response on Book of Mormon and Masonry
Replies: 59
Views: 3319

Re: Vogel's new video response on Book of Mormon and Masonry

I hate to put your back against the wall, but is it your thesis that the Gadianton robbers are Masons or merely described using anti-Masonic rhetoric? It's difficult to know what Joseph Smith had in mind, but the Book of Mormon links the latter-day secret combinations with the ancient ones and desc...
by dan vogel
Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:30 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Vogel's new video response on Book of Mormon and Masonry
Replies: 59
Views: 3319

Vogel's new video response on Book of Mormon and Masonry

In this video, I will examine fifteen of the major arguments that the apologists have put forward in an attempt to overturn the anti-Masonic thesis. Along the way, I hope that my viewers will gain a deeper understanding of the Book of Mormon in its nineteenth-century setting. https://www.youtube.com...
by dan vogel
Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:14 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Vogel on with Backyard Professor Again
Replies: 32
Views: 2017

Re: Vogel on with Backyard Professor Again

Based on your comments thus far, I have no reason to believe that you personally understand Jung's theories of synchronicity or collective unconscious. You said nothing at all about these theories, other than your brief comments in the podcast, where you simply ridiculed us for mentioning either co...
by dan vogel
Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:24 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Vogel on with Backyard Professor Again
Replies: 32
Views: 2017

Re: Vogel on with Backyard Professor Again

Did you read Nick's hostile and ad hominem comments? I will address the substantive comments next week, but it would be a waste of time. I can't review the book and debate at the same time. You already know what the authors think. It's my turn. The only comment I made that could be considered "host...
by dan vogel
Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:23 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Fictitious Priesthood Ordination Ages of the Patriarchs NOW Exposed!
Replies: 76
Views: 17608

Re: Fictitious Priesthood Ordination Ages of the Patriarchs NOW Exposed!

Paul, I don't have a comment yet, but I have shared it with Mike Marquardt. We have discussed this several times. I think he will appreciate it too. Well, time is ticking away and H. Michael Marquardt is not getting any younger. None of us are! Do you think anyone in academic circles would enjoy mo...
by dan vogel
Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:26 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Dan Vogel on Joseph Smith's First Vision - Sunday LIVE
Replies: 31
Views: 2336

Re: Dan Vogel on Joseph Smith's First Vision - Sunday LIVE

Philo Sofee wrote:
Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:54 am
It was a very good informative night with Dan Vogel tonight! THANKS Dan for being such a phenomenal guest, and I am looking forward to more sessions with you!
Thanks for having me and letting me explain my views on this topic and the new book.
by dan vogel
Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:23 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Vogel and BYP on First Vision
Replies: 0
Views: 602

Vogel and BYP on First Vision

Last night, Sunday, 13 Nov., I appeared on the Backyard Professor’s (a.k.a. Kerry Shirts) podcast. Continuing our discussion of the new book “Method Infinite,” which is about Joseph Smith’s appropriation of Freemasonry, we review chapter 4 and its claim that Smith’s First Vision accounts mirror the ...
by dan vogel
Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:50 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Vogel on with Backyard Professor Again
Replies: 32
Views: 2017

Re: Vogel on with Backyard Professor Again

Tonight, Sunday, October 23, at 6:00 p.m. Mountain Time, I will return to the Backyard Professor’s podcast and continue my review of the new book Method Infinite: It was enjoyable, and you brough up several interesting points, but it would be even more enjoyable if you guys brought Literski in as a...