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What you said here about my situation is dead on. I was a troubled youth with parents who thought the bishop and his "authority" was going to solve all my problems. But actually the meetings were making me go insane. No bishop or stake president should've had to deal with what I was going through. ...

In my opinion, it really doesn't matter, at all, if these Bishops "probably won't do anything purposefully wrong or intentionally harmful", the entire scenario is flat out wrong and harmful. It can only be much much worse if these Bishops were to have motivations and or intentions that were wrong o...

Thanks, X-Factor. I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. Full transparency - My first reaction was "These men do this to the young girls too!" :shock: As a dad of a now 27 year old daughter, I can't even imagine allowing this to go down when my girl was 9 or 10 or 13. And if it di...

This has been really bothering me. I was hoping I could ask a few more questions. Hey, Ceebs! I'll take a stab at your questions. Please note that my responses are reflective of my own time in the church and won't reflect any changes since about 2017-ish or so What is the typically path to become a...

Perhaps we are splitting hairs at this point? If you don't see it that way, let me know and I would be happy to discuss further. Almost immediately after I did respond to Lem's question "I wonder why" - She made a post that she was leaving the thread. So, I'm not sure how much more introspection an...

Hey again X-Factor ETA: I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that Lem called out the exact same comment I did but it was brushed aside. Adding weight to my second example, in my opinion. I just now noticed your ETA. It wasn't brushed aside, I replied to it, directly, to Lem. Unless you thought I sho...

It's a painful process to uncover one of these blind spots, but it's really worth it. It leads to better relationships and a clearer understanding of everyone else. The pain of the process leaves strong scar tissue. Yes. All of it. But especially this. Agreed. Emphatically agreed. I just have to se...

So, according to Xeno, our extreme conscientiousness should either prevent us from participating in a discussion and just submit the topic to someone else, or, our extreme conscientiousness entitles us to call out others and judge/assign misogyny or sexism to others even if that was not their inten...

I don't buy that. (But I sincerely appreciate you tossing it out for consideration) I didn't expect you would but I was happy to give it a go and I appreciate you giving me the opportunity. I don't think a back and forth on this will do much good, I believe we both have a pretty firm grasp on where...

Could you give me an example - I promise that I won't take any offense. You can use the accusation made in this thread if you would like. I can take a run at it. Back on page 9 you said: Because he is a man and you are a woman (Just kidding, relax). It seems innocent enough on first reading but if ...