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- Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:48 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Updated essay on Joseph Smith - women & priesthood
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1624
Re: Updated essay on Joseph Smith - women & priesthood
Notions of priesthood derive from the Tanakh. And of course there, there was no connection between holding priesthood and being a prophet. Priesthood roles were confined to the temple. Returning to that model might be one way forward. Gray Ghost, thanks for showing up again. Losing interest over at...
- Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:24 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Cruise Lady?????s Growing Ministry
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1714
Re: Cruise Lady’s Growing Ministry
A Stone Manger – Christmas Insights From the Land of Israel Take a trip back in time, before the Christmas traditions we have today even existed — back in time to Nazareth and Jerusalem and Bethlehem at the time Joseph and Mary actually lived, to experience the story of the birth of Jesus. And you’...
- Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:02 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Updated essay on Joseph Smith - women & priesthood
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1624
Re: Updated essay on Joseph Smith - women & priesthood
Women perform endowment ordinances for other women. And women act in various callings and responsibilities in the church. While this has not traditionally been defined as priesthood, that's only because there's been an inconsistency in how the term "priesthood" has been used. Priesthood h...
- Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:43 am
- Forum: Spirit Paradise
- Topic: Trump - Drug use (Sudafed)
- Replies: 53
- Views: 3483
Re: Trump - Drug use (Sudafed)
Cam I have no idea when the first photo was taken. I would guess that the second photo might have been taken when he was throwing back Adderall. In any case, I don't know. I'm using his annual physical as counter evidence however weak you may think that evidence is. He's on the heart meds I mention...
- Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:23 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: An insight into the Temple / Whip / Moneychangers incident
- Replies: 49
- Views: 3793
Re: An insight into the Temple / Whip / Moneychangers incide
Using the Jesus seminar bead protocol, there may be about 5 verses in all of the gospels that the Joseph Smith including john dominic crossan cite as actually coming from the mouth of Jesus-not much for Crossan to be a scholar about. I believe Crossan began and for a while contributed to New Testam...
- Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:22 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: An insight into the Temple / Whip / Moneychangers incident
- Replies: 49
- Views: 3793
Re: An insight into the Temple / Whip / Moneychangers incide
No, I'm just not reading it as literally as you. Your second sentence is substantially what I've said numerous times in this thread; where we depart is that I read this as annunciatory and not descriptive. I don't see Jesus (or Luke) as providing details in the way that you do. The lines you say yo...
- Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:41 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: An insight into the Temple / Whip / Moneychangers incident
- Replies: 49
- Views: 3793
Re: An insight into the Temple / Whip / Moneychangers incide
No, I wasn't referring to that section. “Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God. Blessed are you who hunger now, for you will be satisfied. Blessed are you who weep now, for you will laugh." “But woe to you who are rich, for you have already received your comfort. Woe to...
- Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:05 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: An insight into the Temple / Whip / Moneychangers incident
- Replies: 49
- Views: 3793
Re: An insight into the Temple / Whip / Moneychangers incide
The Jesus of Luke at least is far more radical than any Marxist. Most Marxists want to redistribute wealth, not punish the rich so much that they hungry. Your comments about metaphor vs literalism - what specifically are you referring to? You provide an instance of precisely what I mean. Marxism is...
- Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:03 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: An insight into the Temple / Whip / Moneychangers incident
- Replies: 49
- Views: 3793
Re: An insight into the Temple / Whip / Moneychangers incide
Imho Crossan is a nutcase and the Jesus Seminar just a headline grabber - and he is so biased he, as you say, simply methaphors any criticisms away! k Crossan was one of only many scholars associated with the Jesus Seminar, which was back in the 80s and 90s. Is that the only thing you're aware of C...
- Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:19 pm
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: An insight into the Temple / Whip / Moneychangers incident
- Replies: 49
- Views: 3793
Re: An insight into the Temple / Whip / Moneychangers incide
That is certainly the argument of Crossan, though I think he is quite extreme and conveniently argues that anything that undermines his argument is a metaphor, whereas obvious metaphors he takes quite literally. He is obviously a great scholar but few find his arguments convincing who are not predi...