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by JohnW
Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:47 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Following the Sprit and Echolocation
Replies: 82
Views: 3822

Re: Following the Sprit and Echolocation

If, though, someone's internal workings are simply them deceiving themselves then personal claims of God being in them is really just people elevating their emotions, hopes, desires, and such to God. Nothing more. The data seems to favor that hypothesis over there really is a God hidden to us all b...
by JohnW
Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:35 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Following the Sprit and Echolocation
Replies: 82
Views: 3822

Re: Following the Sprit and Echolocation

I’ve always had what I refer to as Spiritual Autism. Yeah, Spiritual Autism is an interesting concept. I grew up always being taught the spirit speaks to us through our emotions. It was sometime in my teenaged years that I finally realized the scripture which talks about the spirit speaking to our ...
by JohnW
Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:16 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Following the Sprit and Echolocation
Replies: 82
Views: 3822

Re: Following the Sprit and Echolocation

Drumdude, I see the similarities. That might be where the analogies break down. In echolocation and dowsing, you should be able to run a few double blind tests to see if the phenomena are real. In spirituality, that doesn't happen on any reasonable timescales. The only real test come after years of ...
by JohnW
Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:42 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Following the Sprit and Echolocation
Replies: 82
Views: 3822

Re: Following the Sprit and Echolocation

I hear you Marcus. Yeah, that is the part that is frustrating to me. There is definitely real-work feedback to the process, in my opinion, but it isn't concrete. I'm not sure what I mean by concrete, but it definitely isn't the same sort of feedback you get from a scientific test. Maybe it is the la...
by JohnW
Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:34 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Following the Sprit and Echolocation
Replies: 82
Views: 3822

Following the Sprit and Echolocation

I received a couple comments in another thread wondering if people just make up their relationship with God, and if it isn't all just in our heads. I agree that I sometimes worry about this. This exchange reminded me on an analogy I have used elsewhere which may be applicable to our relationship wit...
by JohnW
Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:33 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Why I Say I Know the LDS Church Is True
Replies: 138
Views: 8564

Re: Why I Say I Know the LDS Church Is True

It had to have been true, because at the end of the process, I have a relationship with God, even if that relationship can sometimes be frustrating. Have you ever wondered, "is there really a relationship here outside my own mind"? WHen people speak of a relationship it appears to be as solid and r...
by JohnW
Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:23 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Why I Say I Know the LDS Church Is True
Replies: 138
Views: 8564

Re: Why I Say I Know the LDS Church Is True

Yeah, I wonder if each person who bears their testimony has a different idea of what it means to say, "I know the church is true." As mentioned, testimony tends to be fairly personal. I think most people understand that a testimony is an expression of their own experience, even if there are the peri...
by JohnW
Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:40 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Feedback About the Board
Replies: 4
Views: 356

Feedback About the Board

I'm not sure what it is about the DiscussMormonism community, but I keep coming back. This is especially odd to me, because I'm a TBM and completely active in the church. I know there are a few more critical views of the church around here than there were at the beginning of the board, but believe i...