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- Sun May 14, 2023 6:51 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
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Re: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
from another thread, concerning a film project, this bit is relevant here: On June 15, 2021, two brothers--both returned missionaries for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints--set out on a mission of discovery into a remote part of the DR Congo. Their hope was to find a group of believer...
- Sun May 14, 2023 6:42 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
- Replies: 151
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Re: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
This is probably the crux of the issue for you. I understand that in some cases there is sufficient evidence to weigh things in your mind, as you describe. What do you do when there is inconclusive evidence and you must make a decision? Surely you have come across situations like this in your life....
- Sun May 14, 2023 6:35 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
- Replies: 151
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Re: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
Logic will accept assumptions that aren't actually true, as long as they're consistent. So logic isn't a sufficient guide to truth, for anyone. Everyone needs something besides logic. Logic isn't just useless, though. Logic can screen out initial assumptions that are self-contradictory, or that con...
- Wed May 10, 2023 3:50 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
- Replies: 151
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Re: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
JohnW: We can all list a number of completely coherent and logical reasons to NOT believe in Santa Claus. If I nevertheless rejected those reasons and trusted what my parents and classmates had originally told me about him--you know, had faith in Santa Claus--would you praise me or pity me? Why? A ...
- Wed May 10, 2023 2:52 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
- Replies: 151
- Views: 7534
Re: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
Here’s a similar answer from a GA. The more jaded part of me suspects he has given this talk more than once. CulturalGA Story - A GA resolved a doubting members long list of questions with just three answers....... (self.Mormon) submitted 2 hours ago by jamesallredHappy Heretic A GA very recently s...
- Wed May 10, 2023 2:42 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
- Replies: 151
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Re: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
I have difficulty with the whole idea of choosing to believe - in anything. This is probably the crux of the issue for you. I understand that in some cases there is sufficient evidence to weigh things in your mind, as you describe. What do you do when there is inconclusive evidence and you must mak...
- Wed May 10, 2023 2:26 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
- Replies: 151
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Re: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
I will never understand how someone can compell themselves to believe something that is logically incoherent. This is probably one of the main reasons faith is difficult for you, assuming that is the case. I'm not trying to be offensive, just pointing out that the personality types that are highly ...
- Wed May 10, 2023 2:19 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
- Replies: 151
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Re: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
Thank you for your long, thoughtful reply, John. I’m not able to now, but will try to respond, in like manner, in a couple of weeks. Edit: A few words, until then: It also reads as though it’s “Pride and Faith” that are the duo that are making you stay in the Church. Am I wrong? I’m not sure that I...
- Mon May 08, 2023 3:06 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
- Replies: 151
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Re: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
I would say I tend to struggle with pride as much as the next human. I would also say that I am still learning about what faith means to me. I certainly wouldn't say I have it all figured out, if that is what you are asking. Obviously, you don't tend to struggle with pride as much as the next human...
- Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:48 am
- Forum: Terrestrial Forum
- Topic: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
- Replies: 151
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Re: Everyone Has Faith; That is the Only Option
Ha ha. Sorry, I meant to mention the other one. Pride is the other common underlying issue I observed with people who left the church. Another way to describe it could be certainty in their convictions or that they felt they didn't need the church. It may just be that by the time they got to talkin...