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by Shulem
Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:35 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Book of Mormon Geography
Replies: 546
Views: 187774

Re: How long?

I strongly disagree. The description was given for the purpose of revealing how long the neck was from north to south. Well, right in the verse Mormon tells us that he's describing how the land southward was nearly surrounded by water, and that his comments intend to draw a picture of a narrow neck...
by Shulem
Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:01 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Joseph Smith & Entheogens by The Backyard Professor
Replies: 48
Views: 4165

Re: Joseph Smith & Entheogens by The Backyard Professor

Uh, no. The hallucinogens experience has nothing to do with imaginary, it is as real as our waking moments, just a different category. But it is not unreal. Wouldn’t it prove interesting if Hales wrote about his own visionary experiences while being sober compared to his visionary experiences when ...
by Shulem
Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:47 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Book of Mormon Geography
Replies: 546
Views: 187774

How long?

I've read your threads as I have found them. So if I ask a question, it's probably because 1. I missed one somewhere (this forum is a big place) or, 2. I didn't understand and/or agree with your argument. As it has been with the Alma 22 length vs width discussion above -- I saw your maps but they d...
by Shulem
Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:49 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Joseph Smith & Entheogens by The Backyard Professor
Replies: 48
Views: 4165

Re: Joseph Smith & Entheogens by The Backyard Professor

The six volumes of History of the Church covering Joseph Smith’s lifetime refer to the administration of the sacrament thirty-three times. Only three of those include a subsequent reference to spiritual phenomena. [March 30, 1836, in the Kirtland Temple.] “We partook of the bread and wine. The Holy...
by Shulem
Sun Sep 11, 2022 8:47 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Vogel's Interview with Stephen Murphy now playing
Replies: 1
Views: 279

Re: Vogel's Interview with Stephen Murphy now playing

Part 3 of my interview with Stephen Murphy of Ireland, an open-minded believer, premieres today (Sunday) at 1:00 Utah time. We discuss the Book of Mormon and apologetics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDE227O6HIo I want to find out what happened... video clip Of course you do, Dan. Me too.
by Shulem
Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:30 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Joseph Smith & Entheogens by The Backyard Professor
Replies: 48
Views: 4165

Apologetic words

It does appear that Hales, in typical apologetic sleight of hand, attempts to take our eye off the ball, the only thing that matters. Look how Hales attempts to take our eyes off the ball by introducing words that are not mentioned in the EOMWH. He produces a negative effect to con his readers in p...
by Shulem
Sun Sep 11, 2022 5:18 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Joseph Smith & Entheogens by The Backyard Professor
Replies: 48
Views: 4165

Re: Joseph Smith & Entheogens by The Backyard Professor

Inaccurate Historical Cause-and-Effect Claims EOMWH mentions many chronological occurrences in the life of Joseph Smith including his family’s involvement with magic . . . . the lack of correlation between the reported visionary experiences and the identification of historical details showing an as...
by Shulem
Sun Sep 11, 2022 4:50 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Joseph Smith & Entheogens by The Backyard Professor
Replies: 48
Views: 4165

Re: Joseph Smith & Entheogens by The Backyard Professor

If Hales is trying to show the differences between Joseph Smith's experiences during revelations are not those of consuming entheogens he is being flat out silly if not directly dishonest. MANY of the experiences of mushrooms exactly match Joseph's descriptions of his experiences. He is, once again...
by Shulem
Sun Sep 11, 2022 3:56 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Joseph Smith & Entheogens by The Backyard Professor
Replies: 48
Views: 4165

Re: Joseph Smith & Entheogens by The Backyard Professor

Brian C. Hales briefly examines the alleged visionary experiences that were reported to have occurred in the Kirtland Temple on mass during dedicatory services in which President Smith presided. He chalks up the supernatural manifestations experienced in the temple as “faith-sustaining” that typifie...
by Shulem
Sun Sep 11, 2022 1:48 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Book of Mormon Geography
Replies: 546
Views: 187774

Re: Asia is DOA

Asia is DOA? I think we may just be getting started. Plus the Book of Mormon in an eastern asian setting is far less boring.... :lol: pretty sure boringness is not a legitimate measure of Book of Mormon geography Shulem, however, makes this stuff anything but boring! Imagine if he had taught semina...