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We're already worthy. We're good enough. No redemption needed. Those are lies told to us by men who wish to make us feel subordinate to them. Christianity is lie upon lie, layered upon generation after generation, inflicting untold misery on the psyches of us humans. What a shame. :( Common theme i...

It's really clever how Joseph Smith did not condition the Book of Mormon on the same "as far as translated correctly" that he dowsed the Bible with. That is, no other 'prophet' before Joseph Smith quite understood clearly what Elohim was telling him. Only Joseph Smith heard it correctly and so his s...

Here's my main issue: no matter how the book was produced, its cosmology is complete nonsense. So either (1) Abraham misheard Elohim, or (2) Elohim must have been on mushrooms when he talked to Abraham. That's assuming the book is an accurate record of what Abraham thought God said. The third optio...

* * * As for the source of their conviction, they somehow become convinced that their emotional ecstasy arises from something external to their own psyches, i.e. The Spirit of God. Then they have this external God's absolute stamp of approval to do almost anything that enters their heads- including...

And are we worthy of divine grace? I’m not sure. Errrmmm... isn't one of the central premises of Christianity that we aren't worthy of God's grace? DCP--well, Mormonism for that matter--is more rooted in the Old Testament than the New Testament. God destroying Sodom and Gomorrah and drowning the in...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bvr839oRK0 It would be nice if I could lure Dan McClellan back for a bit of participation here. The link is to a presentation he makes about approach to the Bible. He makes several straightforeward observations, the Bible is not univocal, we create meaning through i...

Where do you get your morals and ethics? Particularly the grounding, down at the very bottom. Morals are what an individual will do and won't do, born out of fear 'at the very bottom.' For religionists, fear of eternal judgment and punishment. For everyone, fear that unless society steps in and pro...

from the article Lineage. Furthermore, when we do find social classes in the Book of Mormon, political divisions, they seem to reflect alien to anything Joseph Smith was familiar with. To Joseph Smith, social classes were based entirely on money, which was displayed in the form of property. Where m...

Orson Scott Card talked about the Book of Mormon in this 1993 talk at byu. Here's the first couple of paragraphs, and a link to the rest: The Book of Mormon - Artifact or Artifice? By Orson Scott Card Adapted from a speech given at the BYU Symposium on Life, the Universe, and Everything February 19...

Brian Hales: Joseph Smith and his followers portrayed as caricatures The theory promoted throughout CHARISMA UNDER PRESSURE describing Joseph Smith as a “pious fraud” fails to accommodate the historical Joseph Smith in two important ways. First, it fails to account for Smith’s creation of the Book ...