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Right, but imagine having a daughter with complete androgen insensitivity and some butthole saying: She is a man. That is what Markk is doing and he refuses to answer my questions. Markk's position has lacked some consistency. He did say he would define them as a woman, but in a social way. He woul...

I am not judging anyone Themis. I am saying that all this does not dictate we cannot identify what a biological man and woman are. I appreciate the conversation. I have learned a lot from reading and listening to folks dealing with this issue. I have softened with some aspects but cemented some opi...

You are conflating biological disorders, with normal characteristics or traits in a person within a healthy individuals gene pool. Bunching DSD’s in with the normal model, and including them together as a spectrum is not following the science…like I have written many times it is apples and oranges....

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Mon May 30, 2022 3:56 pm

Certainly, if that is what they choose to identify as…but the benchmark for a “woman” which they choose to identify as, is a XX human being,

So would that include XX individuals that develop as male with a penis? They have the benchmark XX human being.

XY individuals are not biologically female, they have a disorder such as Swyer Syndrome where the person has a XY set, but as this reads “ Because they appear female on the outside, babies with Swyer syndrome are usually raised as girls and develop a female gender identity”… . They will not produce...

But again it's not XX/XY. It's what is on them that decides how one is going to develop from the genetic material. This is why a few XY people are biologically female, and when they become adults you would call them women. I don't understand why you keep arguing with Markk. For fun. Markk certainly...

I’m not, I am keeping you on topic, which is we can define what a woman is. Your entire post was about species not what a woman is. You inadvertently supported my point here when you wrote “no two humans are 100% the same.” “Humans” being the benchmark for all this, and the model being XX/XY Human ...

Well, the video reflects what you are asserting…the persons ( I can’t say woman or mother using this “model”) child will determine their gender later in life based on their own feelings and not by the boy/girl binary standard. By saying you don’t approve or disapprove seems like a cop out given you...

By this logic then there is no such thing as human beings and a genetic model for them. Shall we just bypass the non-binary gender identification and just conclude that the definition of human beings are also subjective based on the persons feelings of what they are? Where does this stop, and again...

And people born with more than one head, or multiple organs, or less than normal body parts, is because of abnormal biological and genetic conditions…medical conditions. Disease and disorders. There are also deformities, that are abnormal to the normal model as I asserted elsewhere. They say two he...