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by _canpakes
Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:30 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Why bother sealing 2/3 of the gold plates?
Replies: 36
Views: 2161

Re: Why bother sealing 2/3 of the gold plates?

2 Nephi: 10 But the words which are sealed he shall not deliver, neither shall he deliver the book. For the book shall be sealed by the power of God, and the revelation which was sealed shall be kept in the book until the own due time of the Lord, that they may come forth; for behold, they reveal a...
by _canpakes
Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:10 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Leftism and the Gospel: How Wide the Divide?
Replies: 199
Views: 8360

Re: Leftism and the Gospel: How Wide the Divide?

My wife just had a critical and fairly long term illness, requiring expensive and intensive treatment. We have no insurance, and the hospital knew that at the outset. The treatment continued until it was medically realistic to send her home, and not before. I'm sincerely sorry to hear that, and hop...
by _canpakes
Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:05 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Is baptism for the dead really Christian?
Replies: 59
Views: 5272

Re: Is baptism for the dead really Christian?

Psa 147:4 He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names. Like this one, also - Isaiah 40:26 : "Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by numbers; he calleth them all by names, by the greatness of his might, for...
by _canpakes
Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:00 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Is baptism for the dead really Christian?
Replies: 59
Views: 5272

Re: Is baptism for the dead really Christian?

... I'd wager that most individuals - until comparatively recent times - lived their lives relatively anonymously and have passed without written record of their name... first of all we are speaking about "documentation" not a specific written record of a name (a point for later discussio...
by _canpakes
Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:07 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Is baptism for the dead really Christian?
Replies: 59
Views: 5272

Re: Is baptism for the dead really Christian?

then how could one possibly make the brash proclamation that these people have been living there "thousands of years". In fact you can only speak to their current existence, and with that they become "documented". Not brash at all. We have evidence of their continued existence i...
by _canpakes
Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:02 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Is baptism for the dead really Christian?
Replies: 59
Views: 5272

Re: Is baptism for the dead really Christian?

This is where I get lost. The particular ordinance came into effect in 1840? Everyone up to that point was ushered into the kingdom without any problem, or are they in a celestial waiting room until their name is called? i gt a bit lost here as well. My understanding is that Joseph's vision of his ...
by _canpakes
Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:27 pm
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Is baptism for the dead really Christian?
Replies: 59
Views: 5272

Re: Is baptism for the dead really Christian?

Another newbie with a question. If baptism for the dead is done through genealogy, then surely there are millions of people that are undocumented that this ritual couldn't be carried out on? What happens to these? Are they damned for all time? no one has said they are "damned" at all eith...
by _canpakes
Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:14 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Throwing Joseph Smith under the bus...
Replies: 34
Views: 3591

Re: Throwing Joseph Smith under the bus...

The fact remains that what is known to exist is completely wrong. I've already outlined a plausible explanation for that; one that is based in historical fact as to what the Egyptians did with their history. bc, please clarify regarding the 'inspiration' theory. If what is being claimed is a transl...
by _canpakes
Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:13 am
Forum: Celestial Forum
Topic: Is baptism for the dead really Christian?
Replies: 59
Views: 5272

Re: Is baptism for the dead really Christian?

As christians recognize today, baptism is an outward symbol of an inward change, a REAL change. It's the change through faith that saves you, not the water. It is the Spirit of god that changes us before any ritual, ordinance, or legalism. Baptism is a form of ritual. OK, newbie here, with a questi...