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Definitely saddening. If it wasn't for the work of people like Bush, I would probably not have converted to Mormonism. Tim, so that I understand: Bush’s explanation for the Church’s racism opened room for you to convert? Maybe you could say more. Actually I read Bush's explanation after joining the...

That is a good question. Obviously there are limits to where the pious fruad line can be taken. At this point, I have no hard and fast answer on where the line should be drawn.

Definitely saddening. If it wasn't for the work of people like Bush, I would probably not have converted to Mormonism.

tagriffy, Pseudepigripha, so what? Well I do not mean that entirely flippently I am wondering what to make of it. It might look different depending upon how one is looking at the authority issue. I think it is possible that in the first century using Paul’s name would be rather more a way of identf...

Dr Moore wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:18 pm

SLTribune this morning. The church is losing its best women because, ultimately, its leaders don’t see them and don’t want to have to listen to them.

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/11 ... f-society/

I get a 404 error on the link.

I was heading into the restroom near the end of my break when I was informed there was an unconscious person in the bathroom. Verifying this, I of course called 911. What does management do? They yell at me, saying to the effect that I must get a manager before calling 911. My thoughts were: 1. If I...

I have two very different, possibly incompatible thoughts here. The first is that God deals with us as we are. In their socio-historical context, would the Priestly or Yahwist really comprehend evolution, let alone how God may have interacted with the process? Probably not. So we get "In the beginn...

And who's going to listen to poor little Tim out in Phoenix? Your point seems to be if Tim out of Phoenix lies and says Peter said it, then people might listen. And so God, if he's a pragmatist, may go with that. But how about this. What if God actually visited Tim out of Phoenix and gave him real ...

I'm sympathetic to Shades' view that God and fraud are incompatible. Ironically, in the real world, they go together like chocolate and peanut butter in a Reese's. And so if there really is a God, it's difficult to believe that fraud isn't the primary "mysterious way" of God. I'll admit I'm directl...

...... I am working on revising an essay where I discuss different ideas about how to accept both propositions. First, one doesn't have to think anything. If Mormonism works for someone, that is all they need; they don't really need to reconcile the proposistions. Possiblilities I talk about in my ...