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by Kishkumen
Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:17 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Chad Daybell gets his day in court.
Replies: 15
Views: 804

Re: Chad Daybell gets his day in court.

LDS author and fringe cult leader Chad Daybell's day in court begins tomorrow, with opening statements scheduled for 9:00 AM MDT. As was true with his wife, Lori, his trial is being held in Boise because of the potential bias from media coverage in Rexburg. He is charged with first-degree murder an...
by Kishkumen
Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:05 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Mormons arguing that “Mormon” is as derogatory as the N-word
Replies: 90
Views: 3605

Re: Mormons arguing that “Mormon” is as derogatory as the N-word

I think our view of prophets is heavily influenced by the Old Testament. From Deuteronomy 18 (KJV): 15 The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; 16 According to all that thou desiredst of the Lord thy God in ...
by Kishkumen
Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:21 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Mormons arguing that “Mormon” is as derogatory as the N-word
Replies: 90
Views: 3605

Re: Mormons arguing that “Mormon” is as derogatory as the N-word

Thanks, that's illuminating. You seem to treat "decency" as something of a flexible standard. I'm not sure I agree. I think "decency" is a measure of a person's behaviour despite circumstances, rather than a measure of them taking circumstances into account. Let me press you a little further. Do yo...
by Kishkumen
Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:56 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Elder Holland may not be Secondly Anointed?
Replies: 50
Views: 2050

Re: Elder Holland may not be Secondly Anointed?

I think there are ways to take mixed views of Mormonism without adopting a find a way to stay goal or a whatever is whatever view (The phrase “moral relativism” is tricky, I think). One can see positive elements without forgetting the negatives. In fact, I think in terms of a project of understandi...
by Kishkumen
Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:55 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Elder Holland may not be Secondly Anointed?
Replies: 50
Views: 2050

Re: Elder Holland may not be Secondly Anointed?

Dr. Shades wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:06 am
Just a gentle reminder, but Smith wasn't a prophet, seer, or revelator either. He was simply LARPing as one.
LARPing is underrated. And he LARPed pretty darn well, if that was indeed just LARPing.
by Kishkumen
Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:53 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Elder Holland may not be Secondly Anointed?
Replies: 50
Views: 2050

Re: Elder Holland may not be Secondly Anointed?

I disagree. I think the vast majority who avoid this forum do so because it contains any criticism. As soon as a board is flagged as critical friendly, independent of how much criticism there is, it's an "anti-Mormon" site for any TBM. Yes, because it's "almost nothing but criticism" as you say, th...
by Kishkumen
Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:44 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Boylan's Blog Removed
Replies: 22
Views: 1062

Re: Boylan's Blog Removed

I just don't understand the level of hostility and ugliness that Boylan displays in the linked thread. I mean, WOW!!! Yikes!!!

Don't make things so personal.
by Kishkumen
Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:40 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Mormons arguing that “Mormon” is as derogatory as the N-word
Replies: 90
Views: 3605

Re: Mormons arguing that “Mormon” is as derogatory as the N-word

Okay, now we're getting somewhere. If he claims inspiration from God, can we classify his claim as "true" or "false" based on whether he is really, truly receiving inspiration from God vs. whether he's lying about it or simply delusional? Yeah, that is where it gets messy. Charismatic leaders of th...
by Kishkumen
Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:33 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Elder Holland may not be Secondly Anointed?
Replies: 50
Views: 2050

Re: Elder Holland may not be Secondly Anointed?

At the end of the day, both sides think that the truth matters. If Mormonism is a sham, it should be criticised. It's the objectively right thing to do. And if Mormonism is true, it should be preached from the mountain tops. The middle ground is a weird moral relativism, and almost nihilistic view ...
by Kishkumen
Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:53 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Mormons arguing that “Mormon” is as derogatory as the N-word
Replies: 90
Views: 3605

Re: Mormons arguing that “Mormon” is as derogatory as the N-word

I am stepping up to observe a basic point. Shades is thinking of the way prophet is used in the LDS church. There is only one and being that one is yes or no. Step outside of the LDS church and that understanding of prophet does not exist. There are a variety of definitions. I cannot think of any c...