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by _Symmachus
Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:47 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: SeN takes a cheap shot at Jehovah's Witnesses
Replies: 28
Views: 3083

Re: SeN takes a cheap shot at Jehovah's Witnesses

Too bad, really. I would not denigrate someone else's faith as shallow and superficial. Historically speaking, all of these religions spring from pretty much the same place, so this is just a matter of the snobbery of one group in the same overall tradition looking at others. Manichaeans saw themse...
by _Symmachus
Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:47 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Gospel in Danger at BYU?
Replies: 15
Views: 1884

Re: Gospel in Danger at BYU?

This evening young firebrand Hanna Seariac posted on Twitter the following: This isn't a matter of politics, this is a matter of whether or not the restored gospel of Jesus Christ is taught at BYU. I had to laugh when I read this. Am I to understand that Mormonism is in danger of being exiled from ...
by _Symmachus
Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:03 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Yes, Deznat IS that awful
Replies: 12
Views: 1262

Re: Yes, Deznat IS that awful

DezNuts.
by _Symmachus
Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:54 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Connecting Some Apologetic Dots
Replies: 35
Views: 4960

Re: Connecting Some Apologetic Dots

Do you mean to say that the Papyra were not actually the ones Joseph Smith had and many people including Nibley were wrong about that? Or are you just saying you are not convinced by the original Nibly apologetic theory but many other people were. ... There are times it seems that outlandish things...
by _Symmachus
Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:07 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: A 16th century translator who can spell from the future?
Replies: 12
Views: 1396

Re: A 16th century translator who can spell from the future?

This is an excellent catch, Lemmie. Truly excellent. It is the kind of contradiction that the theory will not be able to maintain. Needless to say, it will have no impact on Carmack, since, like all apologists, individual bits of convergence are all that matters and not how they fit together into a ...
by _Symmachus
Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:39 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Connecting Some Apologetic Dots
Replies: 35
Views: 4960

Connecting Some Apologetic Dots

It'd been sometime since I'd listened to Mormon Stories ; John Dehlin is a man of many talents, but his project is, by definition, more about personal stories than ideas and so just doesn't interest me except when the ideas people come on. When that happens, it's thrilling, and I don't care what any...
by _Symmachus
Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:23 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Early Modern English and asserting ?????proof????? of Book of Mormon
Replies: 110
Views: 12952

Re: Early Modern English and asserting “proof” of Book of Mormon

I hope Symmachus didn’t find that offensive. Not at all. I welcome the correction. It's not the numbers approach per se that I have a problem with but its use as a substitute for thinking and, in the instance I'm referring to, for knowing something. Carmack is either engaging in a soft kind of dece...
by _Symmachus
Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:58 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Early Modern English and asserting ?????proof????? of Book of Mormon
Replies: 110
Views: 12952

Re: Early Modern English and asserting “proof” of Book of Mormon

Was following an exchange on this topic elsewhere a few days ago, with some amusement, and noticed that Karnak threw out a veiled challenge, as it were, to find some later examples of what he called "nonbiblical referential phraseology "of which/whom [ø] hath/has been spoken", without an it where t...
by _Symmachus
Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:06 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Early Modern English and asserting ?????proof????? of Book of Mormon
Replies: 110
Views: 12952

Re: Early Modern English and asserting “proof” of Book of Mormon

Thank you for that enlightening excursus, most esteemed Symmachus. I hesitate to ask for any further explanations as I do not wish to take up any more of your valuable time. You surely have more pressing and important pursuits to attend to. Yes, my graduate course on "Topics in Jaredite Meter" and ...
by _Symmachus
Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:39 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Early Modern English and asserting ?????proof????? of Book of Mormon
Replies: 110
Views: 12952

Re: Early Modern English and asserting “proof” of Book of Mormon

I looked at an older Skousen JBMS 3.1 article (1994), where he calls the "if...and" a non-English expression. Then I looked in Grammatical Variation, went through his proposed examples, throwing out some as unlikely, ending up with just over 40, with "if...and" the most common type, but finding tha...