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by drumdude
Sun May 02, 2021 6:13 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations
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Re: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations

He always chalks it up to the "I was raised a Mormon and I'm a white privileged guy, I acknowledge my privilege and my mistakes and try to be super aware blah blah blah" At the end of the day no matter how much training and awareness he tries to learn, he can't change the fact that he's the type of ...
by drumdude
Sun May 02, 2021 5:52 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations
Replies: 2347
Views: 309093

Re: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations

Wow, that Dehlin statement is a little rocky. I can see why he shortened it. The part about his daughters being sexually assaulted was completely unnecessary and irrelevant. It's the "I can't be a racist, some of my best friends are black" trope. Not to mention publicly revealing something I'm sure ...
by drumdude
Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:45 pm
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations
Replies: 2347
Views: 309093

Re: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations

It's a bit disappointing that Open Stories Foundation decided NOT to implement a ban on work relationships in their new policies after this event. In an ideal world both Dehlin and Rosebud would have been fired under a no-romantic-relationships policy in 2012. John would have had to publicly admit f...
by drumdude
Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:08 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations
Replies: 2347
Views: 309093

Re: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations

It seems to me the most reasonable claim Rosebud could have made was wrongful termination, instead of sexual harassment. The Board sneaked in an offer to transfer her to a lesser role in the company, instead of outright firing her. I imagine that's a common tactic to get around the wrongful terminat...
by drumdude
Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:44 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations
Replies: 2347
Views: 309093

Re: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations

Lem wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:40 am
Was Dehlin her superior in a business relationship?
I actually don't know the answer to this, was the board in control of Open Stories Foundation at this point? She says she was on the board, equal to Joanna. Is there an organizational chart that exists from that time period?
by drumdude
Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:37 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations
Replies: 2347
Views: 309093

Re: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations

I have a different reading of the texts. It's a struggle between two people who fell in love with each other, started an emotional affair, and are dealing with the fallout. John clearly wants to leave before it gets physical, and Anne wants to move forward and make the relationship physical. Anne ha...
by drumdude
Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:21 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations
Replies: 2347
Views: 309093

Re: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations

I really wish James was trolling. I would be less concerned if it was an un-identified pseudonymous poster like myself, but this is an actual real person defending Rosebud with 3rd grade logic. Patterson, I'm giving you everything you want on a silver platter. John is a terrible person, a tax cheat,...
by drumdude
Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:57 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations
Replies: 2347
Views: 309093

Re: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations

I'll also note that you refuse to examine the evidence I posted above. Do you really value evidence as much as you say you do? I'm going to echo RFM and call that out as a complete non-sequitur. John may have a litany of sins completely unrelated to the specific sexual harassment claims that Rosebu...
by drumdude
Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:37 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations
Replies: 2347
Views: 309093

Re: Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations

James Patterson is simply acting as an apologist for Rosebud. He has arrived at the conclusion and works backwards through the evidence. He simply doesn't agree with us that evidence is the only way to come to the correct conclusion. In his own words: James Patterson wrote: I approach the word apolo...
by drumdude
Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:37 am
Forum: Terrestrial Forum
Topic: DCP Has Found the Lamanites!! In the Heartland
Replies: 10
Views: 1957

Re: DCP Has Found the Lamanites!! In the Heartland

"The Book of Mormon is considered by the LDS church to be "Inspired Scripture." The primary purpose of the Book of Mormon is to bring about the restoration of Christ's church in these latter days, and all other considerations of this holy work are of very minor importance or even no importance at al...