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A historic Jesus who didn't tell people the silly myths in scripture is himself a myth as far as we can tell. That dude was so unknown and unremarkable everyone who ever wrote anything about him, didn't know him, but made his story something it never was. This sentence seems to me you haven’t taken...

PseudoPaul, perhaps this discussion could be helped by a closer look at what you mean by a very different person than what evangelists portray. What would be the reason for difference and similarity? There would be important similarities in order to call someone the historical Jesus. After all it w...

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Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:32 pm

Mark's story was created by, as Robyn Faith Walsh puts it, an anonymous hellenized Jew who was likely a part of a literal elite community set on impressing his community.

It’s my understanding she does not take the mythesist position.

“The founding of Egypt story contained in the Book of Abraham is an obvious metaphor used by the author of the book of Abraham to illustrate the power of the priesthood and the covenant of God with his people blah blah blah interpreter babble blah blah interesting parallels blah blah and more hand w...

In Deconstructing Jesus, Price claims that the Jesus of the New Testament is a "composite figure" out of which a broad variety of historical Jesuses can be reconstructed, any one of which may have been the real Jesus, but not all of them together. According to Price, various Jesus images flowed tog...

Stem, If the Jews were to invent a character which was to be the messiah, they would not have chosen the Jesus story. Jesus was not the new David that they expected. Jesus did not save the Jews from the Roman occupation. Jesus was not the glorious triumphant leader they expected. He asked Jews to go...

Bart Ehrman maintains a blog where he continues to respond to the mythesist position: Gospel Evidence that Jesus Existed October 28, 2016 Jesus existed. In yesterday’s post, I began to show how Jesus is the best attested Palestinian Jew of the first century if we look only at external evidence. Jose...

In a year’s time, the number of the Church’s full-time missionaries had grown from 58,000 to almost 80,000. By the end of 2013, the total would be 83,035. https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders/2022/9/30/23377386/revisiting-the-surge-when-president-monson-announced-a-minimum-age-change-for-missionar...

Over very nearly the past eleven years, I’ve received thousands of email messages from an anonymous admirer reminding me that I’m ugly, a loser, an embarrassment to my family, a blight on academia, a joke, childish and immature, a mindless and dishonest bootlicker to the Brethren, a mercenary hack,...

Stem, how do the parallels you cite support the conclusion that the mythical divine Christ wholly invented as opposed to being a mythologized real person? Why do you expect that there would not be parallels to other mythical figures if the myth of the divine Christ were based on a real guy named Je...