honorentheos wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 03, 2022 8:56 pm
Res Ipsa wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 03, 2022 6:55 pm
Well, what I'm envisioning could be integrated in to a timeline to examine that, but I'd like to keep this project centered on the issues of whether Joe Biden used his governmental powers improperly for the purpose of enriching Hunter.
Of course. I do wonder about the purpose of the project given the same exercise was undertaken specific to the Ukraine and shared in the previous thread when the issue was more fresh but I'm purely a spectator in this effort. Adding the objective to be distracted from might lend novelty to the enterprise given I am unaware of similar timelines existing.
There was some discussion in the old thread about the sincerity of Markk and why myself and others viewed him as being sincere when many did not. My impression then and still is that Markk is among many people who do not allow new information to have subtractive power for their theories, only additive. A product of John Wayne/Dalen Oaks "never apologize" machismo, perhaps. So when new information is presented that should cause the original argument to reframe around a disproven view, they instead reassert the claim and the new information largely dismissed. It's not insincere so much as it is simply not in their capacity to deconstruct their prior beliefs based on new information. If it doesn't synthesize with the theory, it is sincerely if mistakenly seen as non-responsive. One is greeted with renewed appeals to "think about it", and the just so thinking that fed the original belief is reasserted as obvious and unaddressed. It cannot be reduced, only acknowledged and reframed which is not what one ought to do with mistaken beliefs when evidence disproves them but that isn't inherently how we all think. As a result, one cannot show that this just so thinking was wrong and needs to reeled back. Instead, one ends up chasing conjecture after conjecture like the multiplying heads of a hydra.
Do you foresee the timeline being more successful this go around in removing imagination from the primary fuel feeding the claims of Biden corruption? If so, I'm interested in observing what success you achieve. So far I see your successes coming in the form of withheld judgement and the potential for Hunter Biden to prove the scoundrel. I don't know that that is in dispute but it's apparently news worthy. Given your evidence presented about the meetings and other claims that form the basis for attaching Joe Biden to the speculated scandal was less successful in finding purchase, well...
I'm sure it will be fruitful.
LOL Honor…we are both pig headed. We both have our lines we stay within…everything you stated about me I could equally say about you. Personally I believe folks like me, you, res, Steuss, and a few others are pretty opened minded, we certainly have our moments, but we can communicate most of the time. There are those like Kevin, Gad, Schmo, Doc…that are like talking to a brick wall, they aren’t even fun to talk to, and all they want to do is drag you into a trolling war…which they have been successful at at times.
Remember this is a discussion board, not a “I’m going to change your mind board.” I learn a lot here. I learn about my prejudices, my pig headedness, and pride.
I get a lot of heat here and labeled as a Trump “fan”…when I stated from the beginning it was sad that the only choices we had was a reality TV host and Hillary…and now we have maybe the most inept administration in the History of our country. I said before was elected, on this site, that if a Dem gets elected I hope it Biden…man I was wrong, but that is what I thought. I voted for Carter, and I voted for Perot…so I am more open than you give me credit for. I even almost, but did not vote for Bill Clinton his first time. LOL I was pissed at Bush the sr, and ironically I think he is the best president of my generation looking back. You just never know.
Trump is a idiot I get that…but he did a lot of things well, and did things that I value that you might not. I honestly believe that Washington is a swamp, on both sides. Lindsay G. Is a tool, as is Cruz. OAC and her crew are dangerous…and Pelosi, Mitch and especially Schumer are life long politicians that need to retire. Schiff is a criminal. Right or wrong that is how I see it.
I hope in three years we get a president that can truly unite us, for my Grandchildren's sake.