Bible verse by verse

[_ludwigm]

[ quote="LittleNipper"] and the hare, and the rabbit, for they are bringing up the cud [ /quote]
I don't care what was and what wasn't unclean for a primitive tribe three thousand years before - or even now.

One thing is clear.
Hares and rabbits don't bring up the cud.

You cites us not only unnecessary things but stupidities.


- And I like hasenpfeffer (Hasenpfeffer is a traditional German stew made from marinated rabbit or hare, cut into stewing-meat sized pieces and braised with onions and a marinade made from wine and vinegar.)


Even out of kangaroo...

The truth is stranger than fiction. The reality is that a rabbit is far dirtier. It selectively eats its own poop for its nutritianal value. Please see: http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/poop.html
The simple fact is that the rabbit regularly eats what it chewed before... It just takes it from its own anus (rather then regurgitating it) and chews away....

Yes, rabbit is that dirty.
Rabbits reingest their own droppings (rather than chewing the cud as do cows and many other herbivores) to digest their food further and extract sufficient nutrients.
The true words of Your god should say this, not the bamboozle words "bring up the cud".

by the way thank You for repeating pictures of unclean meals I like.

[_LittleNipper]

The fact is still the fact. God didn't want Israelites eating certain animals and had very logical health & ceremonial reasons for His ruling. You bamboozle by trying to disprove what the Bible says. And anyone who does not trust the Bible needs to have far better excuses. The rabbit rechews food it eats. It simply passes it out and then chews the cud.

[_The Erotic Apologist]

Hi, Nipper!

The fact is still the fact. God didn't want Israelites eating certain animals and had very logical health & ceremonial reasons for His ruling. You bamboozle by trying to disprove what the Bible says. And anyone who does not trust the Bible needs to have far better excuses. The rabbit rechews food it eats. It simply passes it out and then chews the cud.

You're doing the same thing TBMs do when they say the Book of Abraham did not come from the Joseph Smith papyrus...you're so cute when you do that, Nipper!

Nipper, would you please provide a link to where you prove A) that a god exists, and B) that it's the god of the Old Testament as opposed to, say, the god of the Bhagavad Gita? Thanks!

[_LittleNipper]

Hi, Nipper!

The fact is still the fact. God didn't want Israelites eating certain animals and had very logical health & ceremonial reasons for His ruling. You bamboozle by trying to disprove what the Bible says. And anyone who does not trust the Bible needs to have far better excuses. The rabbit rechews food it eats. It simply passes it out and then chews the cud.

You're doing the same thing TBMs do when they say the Book of Abraham did not come from the Joseph Smith papyrus...you're so cute when you do that, Nipper!

Nipper, would you please provide a link to where you prove A) that a god exists, and B) that it's the god of the Old Testament as opposed to, say, the god of the Bhagavad Gita? Thanks!

This is proof God exists and that Christianity is powerful --- it works : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0D-pK7R ... r_embedded

[_The Erotic Apologist]

Nipper, would you please provide a link to where you prove A) that a god exists, and B) that it's the god of the Old Testament as opposed to, say, the god of the Bhagavad Gita? Thanks!

This is proof God exists and that Christianity is powerful --- it works : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0D-pK7R ... r_embedded

Are you trying to say you believe in god because a cheesy TV show convinced you that psychic powers are real???

Isn't that kind of like saying you believe in the Force because you thought Star Wars was cool?

That's got to be the most unique conversion story I've ever heard...

[_LittleNipper]

This is proof God exists and that Christianity is powerful --- it works : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0D-pK7R ... r_embedded

Are you trying to say you believe in god because a cheesy TV show convinced you that psychic powers are real???

Isn't that kind of like saying you believe in the Force because you thought Star Wars was cool?

That's got to be the most unique conversion story I've ever heard...

Actually, one of the reasons I believe in God is because of cheesy people who think that they are hotshots but really prove that there is both good and evil in the world, observant and blind, concerned and indifferent, and both selfless and selfish among individuals, communities and countries...

[_The Erotic Apologist]

Are you trying to say you believe in god because a cheesy TV show convinced you that psychic powers are real???

Isn't that kind of like saying you believe in the Force because you thought Star Wars was cool?

That's got to be the most unique conversion story I've ever heard...

Actually, one of the reasons I believe in God is because of cheesy people who think that they are hotshots but really prove that there is both good and evil in the world, observant and blind, concerned and indifferent, and both selfless and selfish among individuals, communities and countries...

Well, now you're changing your story.

First you tell me you believe in god because of a certain episode of an old TV show.

But now you tell me you believe in god in retaliation against cheesy hot shots.

So which is it? The lame TV show? Or the cheesy hotshots?

Here's a suggestion--why not go back and answer my original question? To wit:

Nipper, would you please provide a link to where you prove A) that a god exists, and B) that it's the god of the Old Testament as opposed to, say, the god of the Bhagavad Gita? Thanks!

[_Gunnar]

The fact is still the fact. God didn't want Israelites eating certain animals and had very logical health & ceremonial reasons for His ruling. You bamboozle by trying to disprove what the Bible says. And anyone who does not trust the Bible needs to have far better excuses. The rabbit rechews food it eats. It simply passes it out and then chews the cud.

Jewish dietary restrictions certainly had ceremonial reasons, but they were based less on health reasons than you might think. Much of it didn't really make any sense, health-wise. For example: Jews were forbidden, If I recall correctly, to eat meat cooked in a vessel that had ever contained milk, or drink milk from a vessel that had ever contained meat--no matter how thoroughly these vessels were cleaned after each use. (This might have been merely an extreme interpretation of not cooking a goat in it's mother's milk, which itself has no obvious health related reason.) This and other similarly silly and arbitrary rules had no logical connection to health. The most probable reason for these numerous, arbitrary and nitpicky dietary rules was to discourage "the faithful" from associating with "infidels" who did not share their religious beliefs, and might lead them astray, by making it virtually impossible for an observing Jew to be a dinner guest in the home of a nonbeliever without violating those dietary restrictions.

Thus, these dietary restrictions probably had more to do with religious fanaticism and bigotry than with real concerns about nutritional health.

[_ludwigm]

Much of it didn't really make any sense, health-wise. For example: Jews were forbidden, If I recall correctly, to eat meat cooked in a vessel that had ever contained milk, or drink milk from a vessel that had ever contained meat--no matter how thoroughly these vessels were cleaned after each use.
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This and other similarly silly and arbitrary rules had no logical connection to health. The most probable reason for these numerous, arbitrary and nitpicky dietary rules was to discourage "the faithful" from associating with "infidels" who did not share their religious beliefs, and might lead them astray, by making it virtually impossible for an observing Jew to be a dinner guest in the home of a nonbeliever without violating those dietary restrictions.

One of my sister in laws - when she was out of job fitting to her qualification - was a housekeeper of an orthodox jewish family. She cooked, cleaned, prepared the children to go to school and such - and was checked for a week if she follows the law, if she uses the vessels properly during cooking.
After passing the test she could have eaten together with the family.
(by the way a few years later she did the same for a Vietnamese family, and cooked dog's meat - but this is another story...)

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(This might have been merely an extreme interpretation of not cooking a goat in it's mother's milk, which itself has no obvious health related reason.)
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Yes.
It is about a law to not marry (=boink ) a mother and her daughter - something brother Joe violated.

[_Gunnar]

This is proof God exists and that Christianity is powerful --- it works : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0D-pK7R ... r_embedded

LittleNipper, do you honestly believe that only Christians have ever reported similar experiences? Do you have any doubt that a Muslim having a similar "miraculous" experience would have cited it as proof of Allah and Islam, or that a Hindu would have cited it as proof of some Hindu deity? Assuming that some deity was responsible for it, what justification can there be for concluding that it could only have been the Christian God?