Creedal Trinity misunderstood by LDS

[_gdemetz]

Sub, thanks for saying that for me!

[_Mittens]

Sub, thanks for saying that for me!

The Problem with gdemetz is that he doesn't realize the CARM websire completely agrres with me and disagrees with him, why else would I post it.
gdemetz didn't read it or is blind ?

[_gdemetz]

It's strange that Sub can see what you can't, isn't it?! "God is in three SIMULTANIOUS persons." Is that what you believe?! That's what it stated!

[_Mittens]

It's strange that Sub can see what you can't, isn't it?! "God is in three SIMULTANIOUS persons." Is that what you believe?! That's what it stated!

At Jesus' baptism we have Jesus a separate person, God The Father in heaven, and the Holy Spirit as a dove. Three separate and distinct persons and a great Trinity proof scripture.

[Guest]

It's strange that Sub can see what you can't, isn't it?! "God is in three SIMULTANIOUS persons." Is that what you believe?! That's what it stated!

At Jesus' baptism we have Jesus a separate person, God The Father in heaven, and the Holy Spirit as a dove. Three separate and distinct persons and a great Trinity proof scripture.

In Revelations, we have the four living creatures full of eyes shouting, "Holy, Holy,Holy -- LORD GOD ALMIGHTY -- which was, and is, and is to come."

THREE, THREE, THREE!

The First beast was like a LION
The Second was like a CALF
The Third was like the face of a MAN
The fourth was like a flying EAGLE.

The four LIVING CREATURES are CHERUBIM (Refer Ezekiel 10 :20, 21).

The first "beast" was like a LION. A LION is the "King of the beasts" and represents majesty. "King of Kings".
The Second living creature is said to be "like a calf". The word translated "calf" can also be translated as "bullock" or "heifer". Christ here is portrayed as "Sacrifice"
The Third living creature "had a face as a man". The third creature would represent Christ as a MAN.
The fourth living creature was "like a flying EAGLE". The eagle symbolizes Sovereignty and Supremacy. Thus the living creature represents Christ in all his DEITY.

When Israel was camping in the wilderness, there were special precautions taken with the tabernacle which was the habitation of God in their midst. The Tabernacle was always in the center of the camp and was surrounded by 12 tribes.

EPHRAIM WEST -> OX FLAG
DAN NORTH -> EAGLE FLAG
REUBEN SOUTH -> MAN FLAG
JUDAH EAST -> LION FLAG.

[_gdemetz]

The problem with that Mittens in the Trinitarians believe that these three persons ARE ALL "ONE BEING"?!?!?

[_gdemetz]

The problem with that Mittens in the Trinitarians believe that these three persons ARE ALL "ONE BEING"?!?!? I know that doesn't make much sense, but THAT IS MY COMPLAINT!!!!!!!

[_ludwigm]

The four LIVING CREATURES are CHERUBIMS (Refer Ezekiel 10 :20, 21).

Collaborative International Dictionary of English
Cherubim \Cher"u*bim\, n.
The Hebrew plural of Cherub.. Cf. Seraphim.

Note: Cherubims, in the King James version of the Bible, is an incorrect form, made by adding the English plural termination to the Hebrew plural cherubim instead of to the singular cherub. [1913 Webster]

by the way see the first half of my permanent sig line (copyright Eco) as an answer to the remaining part of the comment about LIONCALFMANEAGLE.

[_Mittens]

The four LIVING CREATURES are CHERUBIMS (Refer Ezekiel 10 :20, 21).

Collaborative International Dictionary of English
Cherubim \Cher"u*bim\, n.
The Hebrew plural of Cherub.. Cf. Seraphim.

Note: Cherubims, in the King James version of the Bible, is an incorrect form, made by adding the English plural termination to the Hebrew plural cherubim instead of to the singular cherub. [1913 Webster]

by the way see the first half of my permanent sig line (copyright Eco) as an answer to the remaining part of the comment about LIONCALFMANEAGLE.

So Joseph Smith JR in his JST must have corrected that mistake

[_Mittens]

Cherub PLURAL CHERUBIM, THE NAME OF CERTAIN SYMBOLICAL FIGURES FREQUENTLY MENTIONED IN SCRIPTURE. THEY ARE FIRST MENTIONED IN CONNECTION WITH THE EXPULSION OF OUR FIRST PARENTS FROM EDEN (Gen. 3:24). There is no intimation given of their shape or form. They are next mentioned when Moses was commanded to provide furniture for the tabernacle (Ex. 25:17-20; 26:1, 31). God promised to commune with Moses “from between the cherubim” (Ex. 25:22). This expression was afterwards used to denote the Divine abode and presence (Num. 7:89; 1 Sam. 4:4; Isa. 37:16; Ps. 80:1; 99:1). In Ezekiel’s vision (Ezek. 10:1-20) they appear as living creatures supporting the throne of God. From Ezekiel’s description of them (Ezek. 1; 10; 41:18, 19), they appear to have been compound figures, unlike any real object in nature; artificial images possessing the features and properties of several animals. Two cherubim were placed on the Atonement Cover of the ark; two of colossal size overshadowed it in Solomon’s temple. Ezekiel (Ezek. 1:4-14) speaks of four; and this number of “living creatures” is mentioned in Rev. 4:6. Those on the ark are called the “cherubim of glory” (Heb. 9:5), i.e., of the Shechinah, or cloud of glory, for on them the visible glory of God rested. They were placed one at each end of the Atonement Cover, with wings stretched upward, and their faces “toward each other and toward the Atonement Cover.” They were anointed with holy oil, like the ark itself and the other sacred furniture. The cherubim were symbolical. They were intended to represent spiritual existences in immediate contact with Jehovah. Some have regarded them as symbolical of the chief ruling power by which God carries on his operations in providence (Ps. 18:10). Others interpret them as having reference to the redemption of men, and as symbolizing the great rulers or ministers of the church. Many other opinions have been held regarding them which need not be referred to here. On the whole, it seems to be most satisfactory to regard the interpretation of the symbol to be variable, as is the symbol itself. Their office was, (1.) on the expulsion of our first parents from Eden, to prevent all access to the tree of life; and (2.) to form the throne and chariot of Jehovah in his manifestation of himself on earth. He dwelleth between and sitteth on the cherubim (1 Sam. 4:4; Ps. 80:1; Ezek. 1:26, 28).