harmony wrote: You realize, of course, that that is exactly what is covenanted in the endowment. It's called the Law of Consecration.
Yeah, but we also promise not to laugh too loudly. Everyone just ignores that one.
That's because no one's ever defined "too loudly". On the other hand, the Brethren have defined what the Law of Consecration is.
Uneven covenants. No matter how it works, the individual always gives more than the church. Always.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
Does your spouse love Mormonism more than they love you?
Yes, she does. Or rather, she loves the brethren more than me. I probably wouldn't be able to prevent her from becoming TSM's second or third or nth wife if he asked her.
I'm slowly resigning myself to being second best, like a modern day virtual Henry Jacobs.
Not sure what else to type, so.......................................
Peace, Ceeboo
Then just type until you figure out what you want to say! We wanna hear it.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
I never saw the law of consecration as encompassing your marriage. They want all you possess or all that you may possess, but they don't ask for to give up your spouse as part of that law, based on my recollection.
UnicornMan wrote:I never saw the law of consecration as encompassing your marriage. They want all you possess or all that you may possess, but they don't ask for to give up your spouse as part of that law, based on my recollection.
Zina Huntington
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
Religion, particularly the LDS religion, does cause marriage to be a very complicated issue. I understand completely Just Me's remarks regarding her husband stating, "I just don't know how to be married to you anymore."
I think that if I had completely lost faith in the gospel, hy husband's reaction would have been similar. When I was going through my crisis of faith, and I actually posed to my husband the possibility of not attending Church at all anymore, he told me that he loved me no matter what, and that he would not divorce me over not attending Church. However, it would make things very difficult, due to the cultural nature of Mormonism, and the fact that we still have a young son.
My situation differs from Just Me in the sense that I haven't lost complete faith in the core gospel of Jesus Christ. I could be wrong, but I sense that she has. My "split" with Mormonism involves certain tenets of the religion. On some of these my husband and I agree. On others, we "agree to disagree". For me, there is enough good in the basic gospel for me to feel comfortable continuing to be active and hold a calling. However, my activity is completely on MY terms. If I am asked to do something that is beyond what I can handle, I have no problem saying "no".
I am glad this thread was initiated. It is a great topic for discussion.
consiglieri wrote:Mosiah 2:17 gets quoted maybe more than any other scripture in church, but it may have no greater application than in this discussion.
If serving our fellow beings is the same as serving God, wouldn't abandoning a spouse over disbelief also constitute abandoning God?
Just a thought.
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
In all cases except where the choice is between the two. If I were to demand that my wife and or my siblings disavow God or me, something I would never do, I would be the second choice.
I am pretty sure that as far as Mormons go:
And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
just me wrote:Then just type until you figure out what you want to say! We wanna hear it.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
